Toyota-Mods Postings Jul 1994

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ _______ ^^^ ^^^ ,' - _ ^^^ ^^^ ________,'__________>>> - _ ^ ^^^ ^^^ , ' | ^^^ ^^^ ~I~ I~I \ / I~I ~I~ .~. _ I\/I I~I I~\ <~ ^^^ ^^^ I I_I | I_I I I~I I I I_I I_/ _> ^^^ ^^^ `---\__/----------------\__/----' ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ P O S T I N G S Jul 1994 ^^^ ^^^ --------------------------- ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Fri, 1 Jul 94 08:35:53 EDT From: cmyer@su102a.ess.harris.com (Chris Myer) To: tm@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: New Member Well, here's another new member. Kevin looks like he has big plans for his Corolla, so let's toss in some ideas. Kevin: Welcome aboard! >>>>>Kevin Smith<<<<< My name's Kevin Smith, from Los Angeles, CA. I have an 86 Corolla GTS hatchback that is both my daily driver, and a car I wish to improve. Some of the things I've done are: Modifications: Tokico springs Tokico shocks TRD negative roll blocks (strut-spindle spacers) 15x7 wheels with 195/50 Dunlop D40 M2 tires GAB strut tower brace Airflow mixture preset change Accessories: Momo Montecarlo steering wheel Custom-fitted BMHA floor mats What I plan to do in the future, in order: Steel camber plates and TRD hard bushings Volk Racing 15x7 or 14x6 wheels Some kind of performance muffler Thorley Header 4mm overbore of throttle body HKS cams and adjustable sprockets Some kind of ignition system HKS 1.75 liter stoker kit, head to manifold porting, HKS clutch and flywheel Roll cage and racing belts Fabricate proper strut tower-to-firewall brace TRD LSD Some kind of adjustable shocks Whatever else I can think of and afford I've had 3 Toyota's, an early-70's Corolla, an 82 Celica which was used by a company called The Toy Store to develop a suspension with, and have had this Corolla since new. It's my favorite though, the best car I've ever had. Kevin >>>>><<<<< xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Fri, 1 Jul 94 09:13:54 EDT From: cmyer@su102a.ess.harris.com (Chris Myer) To: tm@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Trying to catch up a bit The administration of the Toyota Mods group is getting way behind. This is because my right hand man, Tom Julien, is MIA due to his overwhelming work schedule. At any rate there are two things I'd like to do... 1. Try to get things caught up a bit. 2. Try to find a new right hand person (<---man, for you non-PC persons.) As far as getting caught up, I can mail out the most recent user, supplier, and book listings to those who don't have them. Now, if you got the last bulk mailing of these lists about 3 months ago, they are the same. Mainly I am concerned with new members and/or folks who have accidently blown away their copies of these lists. If you need any of these, just send me an email with any combination of "books", "suppliers", and "users" in the subject line (based on what you need) and I'll get it right out to you. (Kevin Smith, I'll do this for you without an email.) Another thing I'm going to try to do is update/improve the supplier listing. I've learned a lot of stuff in the search for suppliers for my company, and I have also identified a bunch of suppliers we didn't have listed. (Gary G: How's that for non-conflict of interest!) Now, as far as finding a new right hand person (ok, man, since [to my knowledge] we don't have any women on the list...yet)...Tom basically kept the libraries. When somebody subscribed or un-subscribed or changed vehicles/mods, he modified the user database. When someone mentioned a new supplier, he put them on the supplier listing. Same thing for the book/magazine listing. Then, he formatted those and periodically blasted them out to the entire group. Another thing Tom did was to archive all of the back messages. I believe he even wrote a script to take out some of the extraneous stuff and make the archive a bit smaller. Then, he mailed the archives, grouped by month, to me so I could put them on the Web site. For the good and advancement of the TM group, we need some volunteer(s) to take over all(some) of these functions. The only prerequisits are that you (1) plan to stay available, (2) you basically own/manage your own machine, (3) your machine has the and memory/Hard drive/etc for the job, and (4) you promise to put all matters of the Toyota Mods newsgroup second in priority in your life only to God. (Ok, forget (4). Just so long as it doesn't become second in priority to cleaning the lint out from beneath your computer!) So, if you want to accept the challenge, let me know. You will be rewarded with the satisfaction of knowing that you helped make the Toyota Mods group the greatest on the Internet! Chris xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Fri, 1 Jul 94 14:34:01 HST From: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Hoppy 4TH of July (WOB) Hoppy 4th of July all you modders... Just wanted to say that to one and all... I know its mostly felt here online but needed or wanted to say dat n e wayz.... For some Toyota related bubbling stuff (gada try) Hmmmm.. a Carbon Fibre Race car body was seen in a top unnammed body maker for cars.... in the shape of a Lexus SC400..... Hmmmm... Due to distressing sales and tech help and some gripes... TRD USA MIGHT close down... belive it or not... howebber TRD Japan is still gonna bere be here for a long time..jus gada pay the price for longdistance... some of them at TRD Japan speak english..and mostly just say i.e if you want parts for a 1987 Corolla GTS Rear wheel drive then its like ask for parts for a hachi-ji-roku which basically means an AE-86. An AE-92 is a 88 Front wheel drive GTS and a AE-102 (or 103) is the supercharged front wheel drive corlla gts) Hmmmm.... Some unanmed person in hawaii who recently bought a corlla gts for a or traded for a tv set..later went on to sell such car and bought a 1982 supra celica....he';s looking for a turbo truck actualy but can't find any he wants to buy...unless he buys the 13 second turbo truck for 7,000 which he's seriously thinking about but he don't like NOS vehicles... Hmmmm..... A RELIABLE friend went back to japan for good =( HOWEVER he can get ANY Toyota part for us...IF Someone can get in touch with him...time difference is sorta the killer plus...he does contruction during the day and gets paid something unbeliveable like $400 per day for "busting down things" .... I belive das it... i'm on "lunch" playing "boss" at work... neat..i didn't know we had modems at work =) Hoppy 4th All ! Hoppy Boithday America ! =) Go (TRD) USA ! ;P -koji xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: Clark Wallace Cc: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: 4Runner mods/Dechroming Date: Tue, 05 Jul 94 09:50:35 -0700 From: danapple@vicor.com > Clark Wallace writes: > Dan, The chrome must be removed completely to effectively paint the bumper. > This will require a chemical strip by a chroming shop -> big $$$. Thus, its > probably not a cost effective approach. Your options 1) or 3) would be best. It sounds like the chrome is a stronger finish than paint, yes? If so, I may just leave it on for that reason. Saturday night I scraped bumpers with another truck with chrome bumpers. Neither showed any sign of damage, although a lot of dirt was removed from mine. (I wonder if dirt protects? Kidding!) I suspect if the bumpers had been painted that the paint would have come off. Thanks for the advice, I'll nix the idea of dechroming the current bumpers. > Clark Dan. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tue, 5 Jul 94 09:11:11 HST From: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu To: toyota-mods-wob@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: New Video Game Just thought i'd share... Played Ummm... some Sega Game... Nascar racing or something... it has the MOST realistic feel of a car i've played so far... at least its not unbearable... ha ha ha jus takes a little getting used to ha ha ha ha ... tricky though... if ya play the standard... they don't tell you ya don't have to shift to start... ha ha ha ... its like they give you a 5 speed but the first gear is auto hahahahah -boggle- the first course is a circle track... 8 laps... pretty good... i got down to 6th place lowest time was a 16.83 or something... out of 30 cars or something.. second track kicked my ass badly... the third was kinna long but it wasn';t too bad... that one was kinna easy infact... the second one was the hardest cause i belive it had altituyde changes and stuff like that..elevation changes so its harder to judge... ha ha ha n e wayz... hope ya had a hoppy 4th ya WOB'bers ! =) -Koji xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: Jim_Chott-RZAA80@email3.sps.mot.com Date: 5 Jul 94 13:17:42 -0700 To: toyota-mods#064#su102a.ess.harris.com%smtpgw@email3.sps.mot.com Subject: Air flow meter mod Hi all, Even though this may not necessarily be a performance mod, it turned out to be on my truck. I was having pinging problems with my 22RE, even with 92 octane super unleaded. Tried all other recommendations, then attacked the AFM. It took 4 notches on the gear/spring wheel to get rid of the pinging using 87 octane unleaded. Anyway, we did a trip into the mountains of northern Arizona to escape the heat over the weekend. I was able to maintain 5-10mph faster on some of the long 7% grades I usually struggle up, and could pull them in 4th instead of dropping to third occasionally. Mileage doesn't seem to have suffered too badly, so far, maybe 1mpg. It feels like I have another 10hp or more now. I guess this may be part of why some engines *feel* stronger than others, the electronic calibration is different from the factory. I can report on its affect on emissions in August, that's when I have to take it in for its inspection. Anybody else have this happen after modding their AFM? Jim xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: John Red-Horse Subject: About that 22RE Engine... (fwd) To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com (Toyota-Mods Mailing List) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 18:09:23 -0400 (ADT) Howdy All, Gary H. and I have been corresponding about the recent rebuild I had done on my 22RE engine. He thought that this discussion raised some points worthy of consideration (specifically with regard to the rpm ranges that I quoted him) by the Toy-Mods group. So, here's a forward of my original note to him. cheers, john jrredho wrote: > Subject: About that 22RE Engine... > To: garyh@sco.com (Gary H) > Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 13:34:39 -0400 (ADT) > > Hey Gary, > > I just thought that I'd drop you a note to update you on my engine > rebuild. I probably told you the deal: I had a guy do the rebuild and > everything was replaced (rod and main bearings, etc), the head was > machined and the valves ground, and I had it bored .030 over with stock > compression pistons. The only thing that I did to try to boost the power > a bit was to go with a TRD (.420/.420) camshaft. I reused the rockers > and springs. > > I got the entire thing done for $1500 (including that $200 camshaft -- > ouch!), but I'm *very* pleased. That price also included labor to pull and > replace the engine. I liked the rebuilder (he was a bit of an > anal-retentive, which was a definite point in his favor). He was quite > willing to go with the different camshaft. In fact, he deleted the price > of the camshaft that he normally used. He also gave me a 12 > month/12,000mile warranty on the engine (even though he never wrote my > mileage down!). > > I now have about 1200 miles on the engine, and, once I sorted some things > out (exhaust and ignition-related) the engine is quite responsive. I > used to only rev my old one to about 3800 rpm, but now I don't even hit > the torque band until about 3200 and I've revved it to 4600 so far. (The > torque seems to max out ~4k.) > > I can now run my AC while going uphill (my house is at 7500ft and the > city of Albuquerque is at 5000ft, or so, so I'm always climbing), and > best of all: I don't have to carry a case of oil with me. (Did I mention > that I was burning a quart every 75 miles?) > > I wish that I'd done this 3 or four years ago. > > cheers, > john > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 6 Jul 94 08:40:24 EDT From: cmyer@su102a.ess.harris.com (Chris Myer) To: tm@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: About that 22RE Engine... (fwd) FWIW, I max out the engine in that Celica race car of mine to around 6000 rpm. Keep in mind it is a 1978 20R engine, never rebuilt, about 130K miles. The only mods I've made WRT the engine: -I use dual valve springs from a 2.4l Nissan engine -I run my oil pressure at about 80 psi (too much...) -I have an Accel Super Coil installed -I run a dual 38mm synchronous carb -The exhaust just free flows off of a stock 2 to 1 type 22R manifold and through a ~7 foot piece of pipe (~1.5"?) You may not want to do this with your daily driver, but I've been doing it to this engine roughly two races a month for more than a year. BTW, let me go ahead and report that we won again at the special race they had on Sunday night! Chris xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 6 Jul 94 07:01:00 HST From: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu To: toyota-mods-wob@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: WOB - Hawaii Stuff... Eh LocalBoto... Ya had what kinna rims ? I can't remeber if ya car is the gray ones with the side skirts and the chrome rims or the gray one with the fitti's... ya license plate Ege 747 ? Like in the airplane ? =) or soemthing... if so then i saw ya bro yesterday at Longs Kaneohe... Car looked WEALLY nice =) Was even washed also =) ha ha ha ha -Koji xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: 06 Jul 94 14:07:19 EDT From: "Kevin W. Smith" <76334.3232@compuserve.com> To: Subject: Air flow meter mod >> Anybody else have this happen after modding their AFM? I tweaked the one on my Corolla (4AGEC engine) two notches rich, which cured the ping but didn't do much for power. I live at sea level, but a recent trip to the mountains (10,000 feet) demonstrated that it was making less power at altitude than before. I backed the AFM back a notch, which is still enough to stop the dreaded ping, but lets it run a bit better at high altitude. BTW, a few years ago, a smog shop drilled out part of the AFM to expose a screw, which adjust the air-bypass valve, so they could lean it out a bit for their test. Anyone know which way to turn that screw to richen the mixture? Oh, OMBTW, does anyone here have what HKS calls an EGC? Kevin <86 Corolla GTS> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 6 Jul 94 14:41:04 EDT From: "Kevin M. Bento" To: TOYOTA-MODS@SU102A.ess.harris.com Subject: Supra overheating... Just a quick note to let the Supra owners out there of my recent experience with overheating on my 1988 Supra Turbo. In driving to work everyday, I pass over a few rather large mountains with steep inclines. Well one day last week I was driving home singing along to my favorite U2 song when my A/C turned itself off. I happened to be on a very steep upward climb. The outside temperature was well over 90. I looked at my water temp gauge and was shocked to see it all the way in the red! Well, I immediately pulled over, turned the A/C off, turned on the heat full blast and let it idle for a few minutes. The temp gauge dropped almost immediately. I left and drove the rest of the way home without a problem. On my way to work the next morning, the same thing happened on the same hill (on the other side of it). But instead of pulling over (the needle wasn't quite in the red) I just turned on my heat again (which sucks when its 90 out!) Again the needle dropped. Well, obviously I went out and bought a new thermostat from the local NAPA. Wrong move! I should know by now... In talking to a friend of mine that is a mechanic at the local Toyota dealership, he told me the obvious: get a new thermostat. I showed him the one I bought at NAPA and he almost keeled over with horror! Then he showed me why. He went behind the counter at the Toyota Parts place and showed me a factory Toyota thermostat. The difference was amazing. It was much larger and much more sturdy looking. The temp range was different (to the Supras specs). The NAPA one I had bought was not to Supra specs. And the NAPA one didnt have a "nipple pin" which is imperative to the operation of it. My friend told me he had a few Supras come in with cracked heads and persistent overheating problems because of cheap aftermarket thermostats. Needless to say, I bought the Toyota one and havent had a problem yet (its been over a week) Moral: Always stick with genuine Toyota parts or RELIABLE aftermarket parts. Also, does anyone know how the "fan clutch" works on the Supra? Its where the large plastic fan attaches to. It turns freely when the engine is stopped with a little bit of resistence. Is this normal? My mechanic friend told me that this may also be a problem with cooling. He said he has heard of a number of problems with this on the 22R engines... xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 6 Jul 94 14:53:13 EDT From: cmyer@su102a.ess.harris.com (Chris Myer) To: tm@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: Supra overheating... > Also, does anyone know how the "fan clutch" works on the Supra? Its where > the large plastic fan attaches to. It turns freely when the engine is stopped > with a little bit of resistence. Is this normal? My mechanic friend told me > that this may also be a problem with cooling. He said he has heard of a > number of problems with this on the 22R engines... I've never had a problem with the fan clutches on any of my 2xR's, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. If I am not mistaken, most fan clutches are filled with a liquid. This liquid serves as a means to turn the blades at a basically constant speed somewhere below the rpm speed of the engine. I've seen these get locked up, and they sound like a airplane prop when your rpm's go above 3000. Theoretically, you should be able to grab your fan blade at speed and stop it. (Feeling Lucky?) I do know that I have a buddy that just sticks a broom handle in the fan before he starts the engine if he's going to be working around the fan. Many mechanics recommend replacing your fan clutch whenever you replace your water pump, or vice-versa. The thinking is that when one goes, it usually wears on the other, and that there's no sense running one new and one worn. I've changed several water pumps in my 4x4, and haven't noticed anything wrong with my (original) fan clutch. Chris xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: cmyer@su102a.ess.harris.com (Chris Myer) Cc: tm@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: Supra overheating... Date: Wed, 06 Jul 94 15:38:21 -0700 From: danapple@vicor.com > cmyer@su102a.ess.harris.com (Chris Myer) writes: > I've never had a problem with the fan clutches on any of my 2xR's, but > that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. If I am not mistaken, most fan > clutches are filled with a liquid. This liquid serves as a means to > turn the blades at a basically constant speed somewhere below the rpm > speed of the engine. I believe it's also somewhat thermostatically controlled. That liquid is a viscous coupling that only couples the fan when engine temp goes above a certain point. > I've seen these get locked up, and they sound like > a airplane prop when your rpm's go above 3000. On my 22RE powered (if you can call that power) 4Runner there's a cyclic loud whirring noise. It usually stays on for about a minute, then is off for a minute. When on, it is proportional to engine RPM. This is with the A/C off. I figured it was the engine driven fan. > Theoretically, you > should be able to grab your fan blade at speed and stop it. That's what they say about a drivewheel on a car with an open diff, but I don't have the nerve to try it. Maybe with some kevlar gloves... > Chris Dan. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: "Kevin M. Bento" Cc: TOYOTA-MODS@SU102A.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: Supra overheating... Date: Wed, 06 Jul 94 15:44:29 -0700 From: danapple@vicor.com > "Kevin M. Bento" writes: > I looked > at my water temp gauge and was shocked to see it all the way in the red! Danger Will Robinson. > Well, I immediately pulled over, turned the A/C off Wrong order. Always turn the A/C off before decelerating on such a hot day. In fact, as you learned later, turning the A/C off may be sufficient. But let's say it's 110 F outside, you're cruising at 80mph, engine coolant temp is normal and the cabin temp is 70. (Supra has good A/C). If you leave the A/C on and pull to a stop, say to refuel, that's a great way to peg the coolant temp. Been there, done exactly that. > Also, does anyone know how the "fan clutch" works on theSupra? Its where > the large plastic fan attaches to. It turns freely when the engine is stopped > with a little bit of resistence. Is this normal? Yes. On my Supra and 4Runner, it turns freely. On my girlfriend's former '79 Camaro, it was a direct link. > My mechanic friend told me > that this may also be a problem with cooling. He said he has heard of a > number of problems with this on the 22R engines... Unlikely that that's the problem. At 90mph, the fan is moving a negligle amount of air compared to the air passing over the radiator due to the vehicle motion. If you have problems in stop-and-go driving, worry about the fan. In my Supra, I've rigged a switch so I can turn on the A/C condensor fan without the compressor on. I'm hoping that'll aid in cooling when in slow traffic. (See, that's a mod, and that's why this post is relevant to toyota-mods!) Dan. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: TOYOTA-MODS@SU102A.ess.harris.com Subject: One-piece driveshaft Date: Wed, 06 Jul 94 18:10:28 -0700 From: danapple@vicor.com How much power would a one-piece driveshaft save? Does the elimination of the double-cardan joint and center bearing eliminate a noticeable amount of drag? What are the downsides? Dan. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 08:50:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "John A. Eccles" Subject: Re: Supra overheating... To: danapple@vicor.com Cc: "Kevin M. Bento" , TOYOTA-MODS@SU102A.ess.harris.com I had aproblem 2 years ago where my 22RE Celica would overheat after about 15 minutes of driving. It would be Ok at first, but after about 7 minutes the temperature would start creeping up and I would turn on the heater at full blast to keep the temp of the engine down. I tried almost everything to try and fix it:replace thermostat, hoses, fluid coupling on fan... It was summertime, and driving around with the heater on really sucked. Needless to say, my windows were down:) Eventually, the only thing left to replace was the radiator. I checked prices of new ones, and decided to have mine rebuilt. I paid $50.00 and had mine rodded-out. The top and bottom of the core are removed and a rod is pushed through to clear out all the crap. you wouldn't believe the amount of debris that came out! Anyways, after that was done, the rebuild tech took a torch and burned off the bugs and leaves that were wedged in the fins.(Water has too much pressure and bends the fins) Then the unit was reassembled and repainted. When I got it back it looked like new and my overheating problem never returned..... ....... .......Just an idea, maybe this will help:) REAPER johne@alpha.acast.nova.edu xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thu, 7 Jul 94 04:36:21 HST From: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu To: toyota-mods-wob@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Summit Racing... Funny thing... i got my Summit Racing Catalog in the mail the other week... Was wondering if we should add this into the magazine area... good pricing on parts and all... i got most of my stuff from Summit... -koji xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thu, 7 Jul 94 04:59:16 HST From: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu To: toyota-mods-wob@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: RE: Summit Racing... >From cmyer@su102a.ess.harris.com Thu Jul 7 04:42:59 1994 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 94 10:42:53 EDT From: cmyer@su102a.ess.harris.com (Chris Myer) Subject: Re: Summit Racing... >> Funny thing... i got my Summit Racing Catalog in the mail the other week.. >> Was wondering if we should add this into the magazine area... >> good pricing on parts and all... i got most of my stuff from Summit... >Probably a good idea. I know I look in Summit any time I need something >that isn't import specific. I think they consistently have good >prices. My goal is to outprice Summit on everything for the IPS. FWIW, >their Carrera stuff goes for about 6% above jobber cost. Of course, >that leaves them plenty of profit, since the maximum discount for big >Carrera distributors is jobber minus 25 or 30%. Beer that ! =) Things I bought from Summit: Autolite Gagues: Tach with memory,2 fuel pressure gagues, fuel pressure isolator and steel braided lines. All liquid filled. Accel Supercoils MSD 6-L with e-proms Header wrap (*boggle*) Think i got my Mallory shiftlight tach from them. Hurst shifter Mostly accessory stuff i got from them... I forget..its too early in the morning =) >Chris -koji xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thu, 7 Jul 94 05:01:07 HST From: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu To: toyota-mods-wob@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Miller cycle... A Friend and I were talking about something Mazda has now..its called the Miller cycle... anyone know anything more aboutit ? It basically deals with the intake of the car and leaving the intake open on the compression stroke so it pushes some gases back into the intake... cooler or something... anyone got any ideers ? I sorta was VERY tired when he was bubbling this... -Koji xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thu, 7 Jul 94 05:14:06 HST From: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Header Bolt Problem Solved (Boggle This) I plighted to this fourm many moons ago about my header problem. It seems i kept on cracking or breaking header bolts on my exhaust manifold. I tried Grade 8 bolts, titanium bolts, bigger bolts, studs and screws... all cracked down the middle... The only thing that did work... was stock bolts from Toyota... ha ha ha .. and they lasted about 6 months then i would get an exhaust leak again and have to easy it out.. and change doug thorley gaskets again.. and again... I found out a possible solution from some "Exhaust experts"... their analysis was... My "engine puts out too much power for the exhaust to handle properly. go to a bigger and more freeflowing exhaust" then I told them "My motor is stock though. It has stock parts and has no reason to do this. The only thing NOT "stock" about my engine is that it has a custom crank thats also built to toyota specs..." they said..."Duh" and said... "Go with a bigger exhaust" Welps... HKS will make an exhaust kit for my car if i get 100 of my friends to order one...their mufflers don't work on my car either... My exhaust is a 2 inch pipe all the way back with 2 "glasspack" mufflers it goes from my 2 inch headers into a "stock" tri y exhaust where it connects to a 2 inch inlet glasspack with a 2 1/4 inch outlet into a 2 1/4 pipe running to the back with a 2 1/4 inlet with a 2 1/2 outlet glasspack into the short pipe (under my rear end) and out through a chome tip =) no Monza or Ansa exhaust tips please... they sound neat but get irkitating after a while... My exhaust is a lot quiter then the HKS even under full power... and i'd hate to go bigger but i guess i have to... 3 inch for a "Stock" configurated motor is pushing it...but thats what i've been told... any ideeers ? =) -Koji xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thu, 7 Jul 94 05:34:17 HST From: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu To: toyota-mods-wob@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: RE: Headers Can't Find Doug Thorley headers in my catalogue..but i have it somewhere.. n e wayz... ha ha ha i don't have doug thorley headers... look inside ya TRD catalogue and ya see a picture of some green headers for a 2tg or something like that... sorry tis the 18rg headers... das what mines look like ha ha i'll get the header info... and also got S&S headers,Headman Hookers, ummm check ya mail... ya should be getting mail from me soon... ha ha snail mail that is... ha ha its not what ya wanted but its a lot of info...some might be useful chris =) -me gonna take anap for a while... wabe.. -Koji xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: John Red-Horse Subject: Re: Header Bolt Problem Solved (Boggle This) To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com (Toyota-Mods Mailing List) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 11:41:03 -0400 (ADT) tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu wrote: > > I plighted to this fourm many moons ago about my header problem. > It seems i kept on cracking or breaking header bolts on my exhaust > manifold. I tried Grade 8 bolts, titanium bolts, bigger bolts, studs and > screws... all cracked down the middle... The only thing that did work... was > stock bolts from Toyota... ha ha ha .. and they lasted about 6 months then i > would get an exhaust leak again and have to easy it out.. and change doug > thorley gaskets again.. and again... > > I found out a possible solution from some "Exhaust experts"... > their analysis was... My "engine puts out too much power for the exhaust to > handle properly. go to a bigger and more freeflowing exhaust" > > then I told them "My motor is stock though. It has stock parts and has no > reason to do this. The only thing NOT "stock" about my engine is that it has > a custom crank thats also built to toyota specs..." they said..."Duh" > and said... "Go with a bigger exhaust" > Koji, I'm not an exhaust expert, but a more freeflowing exhaust is not going to fix the problem if it's not the cause in the first place---it kind of smacks of ``parts replacement'' mode. Some thoughts (for what they're worth): Is your header supported in a way that is similar to the support on the stock flange? If not, it may be preloading your header/manifold connection. You might try loosening all of the other exhaust supports before tightening up the manifold. Another consideration might be the possiblility of inappropriate thermal expansion of the header... Can your supplier put you in touch with other owners of that header? Maybe others are experiencing the same problems. cheers, john xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thu, 7 Jul 94 06:55:24 HST From: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: RE: Header Bolt Problem Solved (Boggle this) [H >From jrredho@universe.digex.net Thu Jul 7 05:41:15 1994 From: John Red-Horse Subject: Re: Header Bolt Problem Solved (Boggle This) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 11:41:03 -0400 (ADT) >Koji, >I'm not an exhaust expert, but a more freeflowing exhaust is not going to >fix the problem if it's not the cause in the first place---it kind of >smacks of ``parts replacement'' mode. Welps thats what these guys told me so.. ha ha ha i'm boggling this info myself... jus wanted to blounce some thoughts around =) >Some thoughts (for what they're worth): Is your header supported in a way >that is similar to the support on the stock flange? Yes... it uses the stock location bolts and it is a "Stock replacement" with toyota part numbers on it. Check the TRD Catalogue with the 18RG header. That what it looks like...although mines isn't green =) >If not, it may be preloading your header/manifold connection. Woah big word... >You might try loosening all of the other exhaust supports before tightening >up the manifold. Good thought and theory.. glad ya mentioned that. However, I did try that.. i even tried using rubber grommets and donuts along my exhaust to soften the travel of the exhaust. Thanks for the thought =) Its a good one =) >Another consideration might be the possiblility of inappropriate thermal >expansion of the header... Ummm... "innapropriate thermal expansion of the header" eh ? Ha ha ha ... basically this means not enough flow outwards into the exhaust ? I recently expanded the pipes and changed them to bigger ones infact.. rewelded part of the header for more flow... cause i thought this was the problem... it helped HP wise... although not bolt wise (*shrug*) also a good thought =) >Can your supplier put you in touch with other owners of that header? I'm in touch with 10 owners that have this header on their T series motors. However... out of the 10 other owners... mines is the only street driven car there is... (*mgrin*) >Maybe others are experiencing the same problems. Ha ha ha ... the best quote i got from a guy in cali was that "Heck, who needs and exhaust ? Run it uncapped or put one of those SuperTrap things on makes a heck of alot of noise but what the hell. Either that or run those side pipes from the header manifold, splitting them into two pipes on each side of the car comming out near the rear end. You can get the chrome ones cheap and then paint flames on your car. I would if i had this problem" =) Ha ha ha .. the car's already BRIGHT RED... if Botoboy can remeber what it looks like..it glows during the day..... any suggestion on flame strip colors ? (*mgrin*) >cheers, Mahalos ! >john -koji xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: derek_deeter@rainbow.mentorg.com (Derek Deeter) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 94 10:20:41 PDT To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: RE: Header Bolt Problem Solved (Boggle this) >>I'm not an exhaust expert, but a more freeflowing exhaust is not going to >>fix the problem if it's not the cause in the first place---it kind of I agree - >>Some thoughts (for what they're worth): Is your header supported in a way >>that is similar to the support on the stock flange? > >Yes... it uses the stock location bolts and it is a "Stock replacement" with >toyota part numbers on it. Check the TRD Catalogue with the 18RG header. >That what it looks like...although mines isn't green =) Do you have an extra bracket to brace the bottom part of the header? Since the header is longer it has more leverage, so maybe a brace from the header collector to the engine/trannie would help. Another thought just occurred - how are your motor mounts? Maybe one is loose/broken and the engine is bashing those headers against the chassis? Good luck, derek xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 11:23:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Clark Wallace To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: Header Bolt Problem Solved (Boggle This) Koji, When you say the bolts cracked down the middle, do you mean that they sheared across the diameter of the shank? If you've got a Doug Thorley header then your flange is that 3/8 thick rough cut jobber, right? After inspecting mine, I determined that washers were mandatory inorder to properly secure it to the head. It didn't appear that the contact area under the bolt holes was sufficient (since the holes were cut with a torch rather than a drill) to adequately secure the header without them. If the bolts are shearing flush across the shank, then the lateral thermal expansion (I'm a mechanical engineer, so I can use this term :/) of that 3/8 flange may be sufficient to shear off a bolt (or stud). With washers in place you might be able to adequately restrict any growth in the flange and load *all* the bolts this way: _____ _____ ->|_____| instead of this way |_____| for the ones that are shearing. | | ->| | This assumes that one or two of the bolts may be receiving the full load due to any lateral growth of the flange and that (as a result) the inner surface of the bolt hole contacts the bolt shank. BTW, the holes are so sloppy (at least on my DT header) that this could easily be the case. Try adding a washer under the head of each bolt. If all your bolts are breaking or are not shearing across the shank, please ignore the above (also ignore if your already using washers). It does sound as if the remainder of your exhaust system is soft mounted so that any expansion or loads it may generate will not be concentrated at the header mounting points. However, if the mounts are too soft, then I suppose the entire system could be cantilevered off the header which could cause problems, especially when the car is in motion. Does your header (or exhaust system) provide for an additional *hard* mounting point somewhere downstream, for example, a flange that mounts to the back of the block?? If so, that would take care of any major loads coming from further downstream. Anyway, just some thoughts . . . Clark xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: Gary H To: danapple@vicor.com, kbento@VNET.IBM.COM Subject: Re: Supra overheating... Cc: TOYOTA-MODS@SU102A.ess.harris.com Date: Thu, 7 Jul 94 13:37:25 PDT >> Well, I immediately pulled over, turned the A/C off > >Wrong order. Always turn the A/C off before decelerating on such a >hot day. In fact, as you learned later, turning the A/C off may be >sufficient. But let's say it's 110 F outside, you're cruising at >80mph, engine coolant temp is normal and the cabin temp is 70. (Supra >has good A/C). If you leave the A/C on and pull to a stop, say to >refuel, that's a great way to peg the coolant temp. Been there, done >exactly that. When I was driving to Mammoth Lakes (with our mod'er Mr. Lung), we stopped off at Wendy's for a bite to eat. It was HOT so I had the AC on. After we finished eating, I started the engine and took off. As I was going up an incline, my needle was entering the red. Turned off my AC and it dropped a bit. I CB'ed to Aaron and asked him where his needle was - just below the half mark and he has the AC on! My car is an 82 and his is an 84 so he must have a slightly (if at all) better cooling system than I do. I haven't change the coolant in a while either. Anyways, what I wanted to add is that if you are driving in HOT weather 90F+ and have the AC on and you decide to stop, turn off your AC first, then let the car idle for a minute or two before turning it off because when you turn off your engine, your temp will go up a bit because the coolant won't be moving through the engine to take away the heat. Gary xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: "Allan Chen" Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 22:16:26 -0700 To: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu, toyota-mods-wob@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: WOB - Hawaii Stuff... On Jul 6, 7:01am, tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu wrote: > Subject: WOB - Hawaii Stuff... > > Eh LocalBoto... Wot u like Koji_boy. Hmmm, sounds like a cheezy line from "North Shore" the movie... Eh, Haole boy... no mess with local girl" *heheheheheheh*. > Ya had what kinna rims ? Cheap non_hub-centric Elites Fittipaldi wannabe stars (Don't buy it, it's not worth it... invest alittle more in quality). Why... > I can't remeber if ya car is the gray ones with the > side skirts and the chrome rims or the gray one with the fitti's... It's da gray one with da side skirts with da chrome fitti wannabes rims, I tink da odda wun is da buk buk u were talking about. > ya license plate Ege 747 ? Like in the airplane ? =) or soemthing... Well, It flies around corners like a F-16 *grin*. > if so then i saw ya bro yesterday at Longs Kaneohe... That must be heeem. > Car looked WEALLY nice =) Was even washed also =) ha ha ha ha Ask him about the wax job and if it feels good or not... Garyh wants to know *hahahahaha* jus kidding Gary. I notice that he has been checking out alot of chicks lately. He went and let his girlfriend, Julie, drive the GT-S one night and they were passed by this white Acura Integra. As soon as the as the Integra passed and cut her off... she noticed that it was another girl driver (Integra). She exclaimed, "bitch!!!" and started racing the Integra down the Pali Highway. Neither one of them backed off at all and kept the pace going. Finally my little bro yelled, "what u doing!!! It's not your car!!!". Cheryl then apologized and ended the chase. The moral of this story... beware of the cattiness in wimmin *hahahahah*. Thanks for keeping an eye on it... the check is in the mail *heheheh*. Here is an update regarding the little GT-S. I was planning to ship the car up here so I thought it would be fair to offered a down payment for a brand new truck my baby bro been wanting... and he declined siting that he would prefer to buy the Corolla off of me instead... "Doooooohhhh". He kept on giving me hints regarding the ownership of the car and still continues to ask me to fix things on the car *hahahaha*. What do you think... I being a older brother still wants him to stay away from the work thing and concentrate on school (he is doing pretty well by the way), to keep him away from being caught up in the money thing. And... "I want my car back"!!! *sob*, *sniff*, *whimper*... jus kidding :^). I been looking at the possibilty of a beater car (that being my gray Corolla) for my everyday transportation. Oh Whelps, dats dem breaks. Maybe I should tell him that when he saves up enough money to buy a new car... he better ship it back to me *grin*. Latas, Allan xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: "Allan Chen" Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 22:21:52 -0700 To: "Kevin W. Smith" <76334.3232@compuserve.com>, Subject: Re: Air flow meter mod On Jul 6, 2:07pm, Kevin W. Smith wrote: > Subject: Air flow meter mod > BTW, a few years ago, a smog shop drilled out part of the AFM to expose a > screw, which adjust the air-bypass valve, so they could lean it out a bit for > their test. Anyone know which way to turn that screw to richen the mixture? Hmmm, I believe it would be similar to adjusting mixtures on a carb so I think it would CCW to lean and CW to richen. If not play around with it to determine the mixture by systematically turning the screw in one direction until it runs a little rough. That I believe is the direction of the lean mixture. > Oh, OMBTW, does anyone here have what HKS calls an EGC? Nope, never heard of it... Koji, any clues? Latas, Botoboy xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: "Allan Chen" Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 22:34:55 -0700 To: "Kevin M. Bento" , TOYOTA-MODS@SU102A.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: Supra overheating... On Jul 6, 2:41pm, Kevin M. Bento wrote: > Subject: Supra overheating... > Moral: Always stick with genuine Toyota parts or RELIABLE aftermarket > parts. It could never be more true... as much as I hate to rely on OEM parts *grin* but that's from my GM/Camaro days. > Also, does anyone know how the "fan clutch" works on the Supra? It's a vicous clutch, it requires movement of fluids to actuate/engage it. It's not as efficient as a non_clutch fan (or I would want it to be) but I believe it was designed for safety reasons... people losing fingers, limbs, things of that sort. > My mechanic friend told me that this may also be a problem with cooling. He > said he has heard of a number of problems with this on the 22R engines... Hmmm, I used to have alot of over-heating problems with my '69 Camaro (running large cams .560/.580" 308 duration) and decided to swap it out with a flex fan. It dramatically reduced the engine temp with the same size radiator and fan shroud (alway keep your fan shroud, there is a purpose to it... it acts like a velocity stack for your fan and moves and directs air faster behind your radiator). You should be able to get a flex fan from any of you hotrod outlets. Just remember to measure your fan diameter before going shopping. A word of caution... the edges are sharp so be careful on the installation. > It turns freely when the engine is stopped with a little bit of resistence. Is > this normal? Yes, quite normal... it's done for safety reasons I believe. Latas, Botoboy xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: "Allan Chen" Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 23:27:12 -0700 To: danapple@vicor.com, TOYOTA-MODS@SU102A.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: One-piece driveshaft On Jul 6, 6:10pm, danapple@vicor.com wrote: > Subject: One-piece driveshaft > > How much power would a one-piece driveshaft save? I am not certain of the percentage, the less bearings/length (torsional flex) the less horsepower lost. Common practice in drag racing applications is to reduce/eliminate the use of the driveshaft to reduce horsepower loss to the rear wheel... but then again that is horsepower extreme. > Does the elimination of the double-cardan joint and center bearing eliminate a > noticeable amount of drag? Primarily drivetrain play/slack that is usually associated with the DC joint will be reduced. You would probably get a little better response with your driveline and possible better power delivery. > What are the downsides? I do not really see any down sides with the possible exception of ground clearance. Since it is a multi_link rear suspension we are dealing with most late model Toyotas I do not believe we would encounter lift like a BMW shaftdriven motorcycle. Inputs anyone... Latas, Botoboy xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: "Allan Chen" Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 00:14:39 -0700 To: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu, toyota-mods-wob@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: New Video Game > Played Ummm... some Sega Game... Nascar racing or something... Geeez, seems like Sega has been cranking out some really good games. All of the stuff is based on line graphics (best stuff for response time). First it was Virtua Racing, Virtua Fighter (I really enjoyed this one alot more than Street Fighter anyday), and now this... I haven't been by a game center until recently (since SGI has a Street Fighter II machine in the break area) and had a blast with Virtua Fighter. Give me a NASCAR anyday over a simulator Ahhhh, nothing like the real thing to replace virtual reality. Latas, Botoboy xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Fri, 8 Jul 94 06:25:12 HST From: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: RE: Air Flow Meter Mod >From allanc@sydney.corp.sgi.com Thu Jul 7 19:24:02 1994 From: "Allan Chen" Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 22:21:52 -0700 To: "Kevin W. Smith" <76334.3232@compuserve.com>, Subject: Re: Air flow meter mod >>On Jul 6, 2:07pm, Kevin W. Smith wrote: >> Subject: Air flow meter mod >> BTW, a few years ago, a smog shop drilled out part of the AFM to expose a >> screw, which adjust the air-bypass valve, so they could lean it out a bit for >> their test. Anyone know which way to turn that screw to richen the mixture? > Hmmm, I believe it would be similar to adjusting mixtures on a carb so >I think it would CCW to lean and CW to richen. If not play around with it to >determine the mixture by systematically turning the screw in one direction >until it runs a little rough. That I believe is the direction of the lean >mixture. I was gonna comment on something..i think its right to richen and left to lean ? Or was it Right if ya running rich and left if ya running lean ? Ha ha ha too dang early ! >> Oh, OMBTW, does anyone here have what HKS calls an EGC? > Nope, never heard of it... Koji, any clues? (*sigh*) I'll give ya the book definition from HKS and then what experience I've had... I'm not the best person to answer this thats why... EGC - Electronic Govenor Control The EGC is an ignition management system designed to control all aspects and functions of a 3, 4 or 6 cylinder engine igniton system all from the drivers seat. The EGC allows alteration of timing curves to afford maximum advance in all ranges of operation, as well as appropriate amounts of ignition retard to control detonation in aftermarket turbo system installations. The EGC incorporates 5 recessed control knobs and a series of LED's signaling the operation of different modes of the EGC ignition management system. Functions of the EGC include Initial Advance, which allows cockpit control of up to a 15 degree advance or 5 degree retard of the intital timing set at the distributor. The EGC's Govenor begins to operate at 2000 RPM and advances the timing on a steady and straight curve, dependant upon the setting specified by the operator, until that setting is reached at 6000RPM. The Govenor can be set to advance timing from 0 to 20 degrees. For additional adjustment of the timing dependent upon specific RPM points, the HKS GCC I can be used, as described below (that i gonna have to type later hahahah) Vacuum advance allows up to a 20 degree advance to be reached starting at 0" hg and reaching maximum advance at 12 in hg. A Boost Retard function allows ignition timing to retarded relative to boost pressure. Ignition is retarded starting at 5.8 psi and reaches maximum retard by almost 21.4 psi, dependent upon adjustment of the "clipping point". Adjusting the clippping point to its minimum will result in maximum retard at 12 psi. The ignition can be retarded up to 20 degrees. An ignition amplifer with some of the features of the Twin Power is built into the EGC, but for maximum benefit, both the EGC and the Twin Power should be used together. The EGC comes complete with all necessary installation hardware for installation on most single coil systems. Basically... its a good thing to have if ya gonna be like road racing and such. Its a safety device and all. Basically if ya already have a potentiometer hooked up for your EFI system this sorta lean-richens your timing although this is yet something else to play with and get it wrong... Running lean on your car will make it run faster... if the fuel is there then nothing will be wrong or will happen to your motor =) >Latas, >Botoboy Also on altering your Air Flow Meter... BE CAREFUL !!!! This unit can cost up to some $400 to $800 in some areas ! =) And ya car CANNOT run without it ! Also by carefully inserting a screw driver into the "front" of the box where i its "squared" then in the middle of that jus insert and break the seal and pry upwards and the rest will give and it comes off cleanly...so no one else can notice what ya did or see the marks of aftermarket silicon to reseal it. also be sure to use a good screw driver and not strip that screw !!!!!!!!!! Aloha ! Was supposed to go into work late this morning...though not this LATE !!!!!!!!!!!!! =) have a good weekend all =) -Koji xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 9:28:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Clark Wallace To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: Hoppy 4TH of July (WOB) Koji wrote: >Hmmmm... Due to distressing sales and tech help and some gripes... TRD USA >MIGHT close down... belive it or not... Ummm, do I detect the possibility of upcoming stock clearance sale aka Lou Fuz style??!!?? And TRD is just about a mile up the street from me too :) >Go (TRD) USA ! ;P Or should we say "Go outta business (TRD) USA !" Clark xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Fri, 8 Jul 94 13:12:07 EDT From: msink@gateway.bsis.com (Mark Sink - Gateway Production) To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: intake valves stuck open? Cc: msink@gateway.bsis.com My 4AGE '87 MR2 is sick. It's running rough, If I pull the plug wires off of the #1 or #4 cylinder, it dies. If I pull 2 and or 3, there is no difference in how the engine runs, as if they weren't doing anything in the first place. The car is hard, or won't start, just turns over. This makes sense if both 2 and 3 are out. Also, I can't remember my T-VIS intake manifold getting hot. It was VERY hot. Is it possible for the fuel and air to be pushed back with open intake valves and ignited, causing the intake manifold to get hot? The only thing that doesn't make sense, is that it's gotten worse. My car sat basically idle for 2 months waiting on a clutch from the ToyStore, and it's not even CLOSE to what I ordered. DON'T EVER GET A CUSTOM CLUTCH, OR MAYBE CUSTOME ANYTHING FROM THEM. IT WAS A NIGHTMARE. Anyway, when it came time to take it to the shop to have the clutch put in, I had to roll start it, attempted a few times actually and blue smoke came out, didn't see how much, eyewitness said quite a bit. But it seemed to run fine. Then going down the road, the ENG. WAR. light came on, and it died. Sounded like a VERY open intake noise. As if I pulled the tubing off of the T-VIS. I asked them to replace O2 sensor, but they didn't have one at the time, and said it checked out OK anyway. When I started it up to take it home, I could tell immediately something wasn't right. Very slugish response, and louder than normal intake noise, throughty souding. But very driveable, only seemed a little down on power. When I got home, I attempted a restart, and it just kept turning over, no start. I changed the plugs, and let it cool off about 30 min. It started, and was now very bad! Idle at 400 rpm, rough, very sick. So I started pulling plug wires and to see if I was running on 2 or 3 cylinders. 2 and 3 aren't doing anything. So, it went from seemingly normal as I started my trip to the shop, to dying on me, then a little low taking it back home, to very bad the way it is now. That's what doesn't sound like stuck valves. Any Clue? xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Fri, 8 Jul 94 10:39:41 PDT From: do@etdesg.trw.com (Louis Do) To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: intake valves stuck open? i don't think your intake valve stuck open unless you have broken hardware(valve,vave springs, cam etc..) Are you getting spark at the 2 and 3 wires? check for intake vacumm leaks. Louis xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Fri, 8 Jul 94 13:47:46 EDT From: msink@gateway.bsis.com (Mark Sink - Gateway Production) To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: intake valves stuck open? ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From do@etdesg.trw.com Fri Jul 8 13:42:22 1994 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 94 10:39:41 PDT From: do@etdesg.trw.com (Louis Do) To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: intake valves stuck open? Content-Length: 191 i don't think your intake valve stuck open unless you have broken hardware(valve,vave springs, cam etc..) Are you getting spark at the 2 and 3 wires? check for intake vacumm leaks. Louis ----- End Included Message ----- Well, the pistons have valve relief pockets that prevent damage, so it's possible they aren't broken. I do get spark from 2 and 3. Checking for intake vacuum leaks would involve what exactly? I tightened and checked everything from the filter up to the T-VIS butterfly. BTW T-VIS is the Toyota-Variable Induction System on the 4AGE. (Intake Plenum? throttle body?) It's HOT! You 4AGE people tell me if yours gets hot. I think mine had always been cool. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Fri, 8 Jul 94 11:11:44 PDT From: do@etdesg.trw.com (Louis Do) To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: intake valves stuck open? > i don't think your intake valves are stuck open unless you have broken > hardware(valve,vave springs, cam etc..) > > Are you getting spark at the 2 and 3 wires? check for intake vacumm leaks. > > Louis > > ----- End Included Message ----- > > Well, the pistons have valve relief pockets that prevent damage, > so it's possible they aren't broken. > > I do get spark from 2 and 3. > Checking for intake vacuum leaks would involve what exactly? I tightened > and checked everything from the filter up to the T-VIS butterfly. BTW > T-VIS is the Toyota-Variable Induction System on the 4AGE. (Intake Plenum? > throttle body?) It's HOT! You 4AGE people tell me if yours gets hot. I think > mine had always been cool. > All intake manifolds get hot while engine is running. Did those guys pull the tranny or engine to do the clutch? I'll bet cha they didn't connect everything back correctly. you also mentioned that there is a intake sucking sound so sounds like you have an intake leak. Louis xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Fri, 8 Jul 94 14:34:14 EDT From: cmyer@su102a.ess.harris.com (Chris Myer) To: tm@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: intake valves stuck open? Does this sound like a timing problem to anyone else? Like a slipping timing belt? Chris xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Fri, 8 Jul 94 12:06:24 PDT From: do@etdesg.trw.com (Louis Do) To: tm@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: intake valves stuck open? > > Does this sound like a timing problem to anyone else? Like a slipping > timing belt? > > Chris > Timing could be the problem but he said that there is an intake sucking noise so I went for the obvious suggestion of intake vacumm leak. Come to think of it, a slipping belt would mess up valve timing causing the engine to misfire(intake valve open on exhaust stroke etc...). Hey Mark, give more info. Louis xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Fri, 8 Jul 94 15:10:29 EDT From: cmyer@su102a.ess.harris.com (Chris Myer) To: tm@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: intake valves stuck open? If it is a timing problem, do this: get it running again and put your timing light on it (you do have a timing light, don't you?). Even if you can't get it running, put a good strong battery on it and turn it over. You may need to pull the plugs out and ground them to get the engine to turn over fast enough to get good readings. If the light is flashing and you don't see the timing mark, or if the timing mark is WAY off, I'd be suspicious of the timing belt. Try to dial it in with the distributor (assuming you have one. A lot of newer cars don't have distributors _or_ timing marks!) If your timing is sorta close, and the engine won't start, you may be able to tweak your distributor until it will start. If it is a timing problem, it is either your timing belt is off or your distributor is off (installed incorrectly or slipped.) And it won't necessarily backfire to give you this info. If you have a intake valve partially open as the piston is coming up, you'll definitely get a very hot intake. Chris xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: "Isaac A. Stoddard" Subject: Re: intake valves stuck open? To: Mark Sink - Gateway Production Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 15:47:43 -0400 (EDT) Cc: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com " Mark Sink - Gateway Production writes --" > > My 4AGE '87 MR2 is sick. > > It's running rough, If I pull the plug wires off of the #1 or #4 > cylinder, it dies. If I pull 2 and or 3, there is no difference [...] > > So, it went from seemingly normal as I started my trip to the shop, to dying > on me, then a little low taking it back home, to very bad the way it is now. > That's what doesn't sound like stuck valves. Any Clue? > Worn valve guides? OY. When the going gets weird, the going gets VERY synchronicious. ;-> I am having the SAME sort of problem with my wife's MITSU COLT VISTA 88 2.0l OHC (the G63B), ever since they did a head job, eighteen months ago. First, there was a hissing "chuffing" leak at the intake manifold gasket. They fixed that. Now it seems like something is dropped/worn. The #4 cyl sparkplug oils up after 300mi, and hesitation gets awful. Dry compression is OK, and wet compression doesn't change from dry. WHAT CONDITION are your #2 and #3 plugs in, now? And how is your cap/rotor cleanliness? Is the air filter really clean? I mention these because I renewed them and got a significant change in the car's behavior. ;-> Ran fine (or at least so improved that I thought it was fine) for a whole week of around-town chores. I'm going to try and pull the cam tower cover off and peek at the valve guides. I *think* the mechanical timing is OK, but I still need to double check that, too. I'm still trying to work without Factory Manuals. ;-( Please keep us posted on your progress. Ah, shadetree mechanic-ing. Reminds me of the Pat Benatar lyric, "It's all so confusing, this brutal abusing,..." Ike Stoddard@draper.com xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Fri, 8 Jul 94 16:06:07 EDT From: msink@gateway.bsis.com (Mark Sink - Gateway Production) To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: intake valves stuck open? All my plugs are oily, but I think it's from leaking casting plugs, and leaking down into them, not from by passing the rings. There's oil around the top of the head area where the plugs are screwed in. I have casting plugs, that leaked before, and may be leaking again. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Fri, 8 Jul 94 13:41:43 PDT From: edwang@lsil.com (Ed Wang - 7837) To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: intake valves stuck open? I would suggest to check compression first, then timing. If you don't have a timing light you can look through #1 spark plug hole. Just remember there are two TDCs for #1 piston. If everything is ok check all the connections. Maybe some connection is not good after they changed your clutch. As how they changed your clutch. You can tell if the valve is open or not easily by a compression test. you can also tell a leaking valve guild (right name ?) by a "wet compression" test. Could it be timing completely wrong, (by 360 degrees)? Edward Wang (408) GEE-STEP Fax: (408) 954-4874 edwang@up171.lsil.com xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: John Red-Horse Subject: Re: intake valves stuck open? To: edwang@lsil.com (Ed Wang - 7837) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 17:31:48 -0400 (ADT) Cc: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Ed Wang - 7837 wrote: > > I would suggest to check compression first, then timing. If you don't have > a timing light you can look through #1 spark plug hole. Just remember there > are two TDCs for #1 piston. Good suggestion. > > You can tell if the valve is open or not easily by a compression test. > you can also tell a leaking valve guild (right name ?) by a "wet compression" test. > You can also do a less specific test by doing a vacuum check. You can definitely tell if you've dropped a valve, and if you've got worn valve guides. You will not be able to narrow it down to which one it is though. cheers, john xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Fri, 8 Jul 94 18:50:28 EDT From: cmyer@su102a.ess.harris.com (Chris Myer) To: tm@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Outta here for a week! I've got to do another week of National Guard duty, so I'll be back a week from Monday. Hope things will wait until then. As usual, if my machine goes bonkers and starts mailing core files by the hundreds to each users, someone contact: tvu@su102d.ess.harris.com and let him know. See ya! Chris xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sat, 9 Jul 1994 11:12:00 -0600 (MDT) From: Darin Ray Hamilton Subject: SuperTrapp To: MR2 Interest Mailing List Cc: Toyota Mods Mailing List I'm definitely a happy guy! I just got my SuperTrapp installed on my '86 MR2 (straight pipe--no cat'), and I LOVE it! I recommend this muffler to anyone. I also got a deal from the Toy Shop (not the Cali' Toy Shop, the Calgary one)... Can$150 for the chrome 'Trapp+tip and Can$50 for install. I do have a question though..... Ever since my stock muffler developed a fist-sized hole, my car backfires. Now, with the 'Trapp, it backfires even more! Is this a timing issue? (I'm running 91 octane, BTW) What is causing this, and how can I remedy the prob' (if there IS a prob')? (. )(. ) ------------------------------------###--\/\/\/\/--###------- Darin Ray Hamilton Faculty of Management, University of Calgary, Alberta, CANADA e-mail: drhamilt@acs.ucalgary.ca xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sat, 9 Jul 1994 12:56:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Lorne Richard Silkes Subject: Re: SuperTrapp To: Darin Ray Hamilton Cc: MR2 Interest Mailing List , I believe is due to the lack of back pressure. But I don't know the consequences. Lorne On Sat, 9 Jul 1994, Darin Ray Hamilton wrote: > > I'm definitely a happy guy! > I just got my SuperTrapp installed on my '86 MR2 (straight pipe--no cat'), > and I LOVE it! I recommend this muffler to anyone. > I also got a deal from the Toy Shop (not the Cali' Toy Shop, the Calgary > one)... Can$150 for the chrome 'Trapp+tip and Can$50 for install. > > I do have a question though..... > Ever since my stock muffler developed a fist-sized hole, my car > backfires. Now, with the 'Trapp, it backfires even more! > Is this a timing issue? (I'm running 91 octane, BTW) > What is causing this, and how can I remedy the prob' (if there IS a prob')? > > (. )(. ) > ------------------------------------###--\/\/\/\/--###------- > Darin Ray Hamilton > Faculty of Management, University of Calgary, Alberta, CANADA > e-mail: drhamilt@acs.ucalgary.ca > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: abuhr@raptor.eng.ufl.edu Subject: Re: SuperTrapp To: drhamilt@acs.ucalgary.ca (Darin Ray Hamilton) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 10:42:50 -0400 (EDT) Cc: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com (Toyota Mods ML) > I do have a question though..... > Ever since my stock muffler developed a fist-sized hole, my car > backfires. Now, with the 'Trapp, it backfires even more! > Is this a timing issue? (I'm running 91 octane, BTW) > What is causing this, and how can I remedy the prob' (if there IS a prob')? When is it backfiring? At idle, or when you let up on the throttle? The HKS exhaust on my Supra backfires (mildly) when I let off the throttle, which is kind of cool :), but no longer backfires at idle. I didn't like having the car stumbling and popping when sitting at a light. Of course in my case that was because the plugs I had put in weren't up to Toyota spec... what I'm getting at is let-off-throttle-backfire is probably ok, idle- backfire is annoying, even if it may not be bad for the engine... Aaron B. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 09:44:29 -0600 (MDT) From: Darin Ray Hamilton Subject: Re: SuperTrapp To: abuhr@raptor.eng.ufl.edu Cc: Toyota Mods ML On Sun, 10 Jul 1994 abuhr@raptor.eng.ufl.edu wrote: > When is it backfiring? At idle, or when you let up on the throttle? > The HKS exhaust on my Supra backfires (mildly) when I let off the throttle, > which is kind of cool :), but no longer backfires at idle. I didn't like > having the car stumbling and popping when sitting at a light. Of course in > my case that was because the plugs I had put in weren't up to Toyota spec... > what I'm getting at is let-off-throttle-backfire is probably ok, idle- > backfire is annoying, even if it may not be bad for the engine... It's "let-off-the-throttle"-backfiring..... and fairly loud at that! Idle's fine though. (. )(. ) ------------------------------------###--\/\/\/\/--###------- Darin Ray Hamilton Faculty of Management, University of Calgary, Alberta, CANADA e-mail: drhamilt@acs.ucalgary.ca xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sun, 10 Jul 94 17:30:06 HST From: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: RE: Fredo's Yabba Dabba Do Query >From Fred_Oberbuchner@MBnet.MB.CA Tue Jun 21 06:20:48 1994 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 11:31:09 -0500 From: "Fred J. Oberbuchner" Subject: RE: Fred`s Yabba Dabba D tk>There was a guy selling 15 x 7 Borbet Type C's with AVS Intermediate ti tk>misc forsale a while back... $600 with shipping... >Would anyone still have this ad? (and could maybe email it to me?) I belive its gone... i checked for it..sorry... tk>Woo woo ! =) Manarays are neat =) Huh? vot iz diz "Manaray"? Manaray is a type of rim that tire rack has. They provide decent rims and good sizes for toyotas. >fredo -Koji xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sun, 10 Jul 94 17:38:56 HST From: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: RE: Welcome Newbie ! (Late Reply) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 94 08:35:53 EDT From: cmyer@su102a.ess.harris.com (Chris Myer) To: tm@su102a.ess.harris.com >Well, here's another new member. Kevin looks like he has big plans for >his Corolla, so let's toss in some ideas. Date: Fri, 1 Jul 94 08:35:53 EDT From: cmyer@su102a.ess.harris.com (Chris Myer) To: tm@su102a.ess.harris.com >Well, here's another new member. Kevin looks like he has big plans for >his Corolla, so let's toss in some ideas. >Kevin: Welcome aboard! Greetings User ! >>>>>Kevin Smith<<<<< >My name's Kevin Smith, from Los Angeles, CA. Oh Oh ! Not another damm Cali person ! =) >I have an 86 Corolla GTS hatchback that is both my daily driver, and a >car I wish to improve. Some of the things I've done are: Notice: Its a hatchback.... =) >Modifications: >Tokico springs How many grams =) >Tokico shocks Adjustable ? =) Illumina's ? =) >TRD negative roll blocks (strut-spindle spacers) Wow !!! >15x7 wheels with 195/50 Dunlop D40 M2 tires Woo woo.. check them tires. What kinna rims ? >GAB strut tower brace Finally... sum bunny with a GAB ! =) >Airflow mixture preset change Potentiometer ? >Accessories: >Momo Montecarlo steering wheel Nice one ! I liked the Fitti F3 though =( >Custom-fitted BMHA floor mats Beverly Hills Motoring Accessories Floor Mats =) Nice Logos =) >What I plan to do in the future, in order: >Steel camber plates and TRD hard bushings The camber plates are good. The hard bushing are which ones ? Not the poly ? >Volk Racing 15x7 or 14x6 wheels Go Volk ! =) >Some kind of performance muffler No exhaust system or a custom one ? >Thorley Header Be sure to plug in that stupid emissions sensor before you bolt it back up its a pain to put in otherwise... >4mm overbore of throttle body Thats something we nebber discussed... VERY smart... opening the throttle body...no matter how "open" you air comming in or ya air box or lack of its the throttle body opening that determines it all... >HKS cams and adjustable sprockets Get the ones with the allen screws... its worth the extra effort other wise the "set" ones can be flaky at times... >Some kind of ignition system MSD 6-AL ? So can run the dual 44's =) >HKS 1.75 liter stoker kit, head to manifold porting, HKS clutch and flywheel Woah ! Do some serious Spirited Street Driving ? =) >Roll cage and racing belts TRD has the roll cage... and in a hatchback =) 5 point harness is a must =) >Fabricate proper strut tower-to-firewall brace Ummm proper ? >TRD LSD =) >Some kind of adjustable shocks Tokiko illuminas =) >Whatever else I can think of and afford "think" "afford" theres an oxymoron statement =) sorta like a busty oriental =) >I've had 3 Toyota's, an early-70's Corolla, an 82 Celica which was used >by a company called The Toy Store to develop a suspension with, and have had >this Corolla since new. It's my favorite though, the best car I've ever >had. Wow.. the White Toystore GT ? =) Early year coupes are kewl =) > Kevin Welcome Kev ! >>>>><<<<< -Koji xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: Craig Pugsley Subject: Aftermarket injection. To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 14:26:13 +1000 (EST) Hi there, I was wondering what aftermarket injection computers are in common use in the Toyota world? (I ask this as I have seen Accel mentioned a few times but never knew they did injection stuff.) Cheers, Craig. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: "Allan Chen" Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 07:59:58 -0700 To: Darin Ray Hamilton , Subject: Re: SuperTrapp Cc: Toyota Mods Mailing List On Jul 9, 11:12am, Darin Ray Hamilton wrote: > Subject: SuperTrapp > I do have a question though..... > Ever since my stock muffler developed a fist-sized hole, my car > backfires. Now, with the 'Trapp, it backfires even more! > Is this a timing issue? (I'm running 91 octane, BTW) > What is causing this, and how can I remedy the prob' (if there IS a prob')? Do you have an open cap or a closed cap system? The explaination I could provide is the fact that with a more efficient exhaust system (i.e. freeflowing) spent gases move quicker. Therefore the unspent exhaust gases leans (being a hot mixture) reignites once reexposed to more oxygen. A common problem associated with motorcycles once an efficient exhaust system (a SS Supertrap nontheless) is installed. To rememdy it I would richen the mixture by rejetting the carbs. It could also be associated with a timing issue as well. Latas, Allan Chen Silicon Graphics Inc. Mountain View, CA allanc@sgi.com xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 12:06:28 -0600 (MDT) From: Darin Ray Hamilton Subject: Re: SuperTrapp To: Allan Chen Cc: MR2 Interest Mailing List , On Mon, 11 Jul 1994, Allan Chen wrote: > Do you have an open cap or a closed cap system? The explaination I > could provide is the fact that with a more efficient exhaust system (i.e. > freeflowing) spent gases move quicker. Therefore the unspent exhaust gases > leans (being a hot mixture) reignites once reexposed to more oxygen. A common > problem associated with motorcycles once an efficient exhaust system (a SS > Supertrap nontheless) is installed. To rememdy it I would richen the mixture > by rejetting the carbs. It could also be associated with a timing issue as > well. Mine's open-cap with a chrome tip. Unfortunately, I can't richen the mixture by "rejetting the carbs", since mine's EFI. :) I'm going to time it ASAP, but my buddy said I'm already running rich (I think I agree, simply from the exhaust odour). I'm confused though... Wouldn't richening the mixture be counter-intuitative? If the backfiring is caused by unburnt fuel in the exhaust manifold, wouldn't leaning the mix cut the amount of these gasses? (. )(. ) ------------------------------------###--\/\/\/\/--###------- Darin Ray Hamilton Faculty of Management, University of Calgary, Alberta, CANADA e-mail: drhamilt@acs.ucalgary.ca xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 11:11:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Clark Wallace To: drhamilt@acs.ucalgary.ca Cc: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: SuperTrapp Darin, Did anything else come off with the catalytic, like a sensor?? Also, have you checked for a leak anywhere in the system (missing gasket, loose fitting, etc). Clark xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 12:25:54 -0600 (MDT) From: Darin Ray Hamilton Subject: Re: SuperTrapp To: Clark Wallace Cc: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com On Mon, 11 Jul 1994, Clark Wallace wrote: > Did anything else come off with the catalytic, like a sensor?? Also, have you > checked for a leak anywhere in the system (missing gasket, loose fitting, etc). The shop that did the install would have told me if something like the above was the case. It's just a backpressure issue, I guess... I'm still going to time it and muck with the mixture to see what I can do. (. )(. ) ------------------------------------###--\/\/\/\/--###------- Darin Ray Hamilton Faculty of Management, University of Calgary, Alberta, CANADA e-mail: drhamilt@acs.ucalgary.ca xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 14:39:18 EDT From: msink@gateway.bsis.com (Mark Sink - Gateway Production) To: schicked@aurxc1.aur.alcatel.com Subject: Re: MR2 Mods Cc: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Hi Mark, I know about the THSCC, I've seen there pamplet, and considered joining, but didn't want to drive to all the sites. Did you do the Car Guys School? I definitely want to do that. As for clutch, DON'T get the HKS heavy duty, and DON'T get anything custom made from the Toystore in CA. I went through my HKS unit very quick. BTW, I also have ther light weight flywheel that I no longer use. I haven't decided If I want to keep it or sell it. Right now I have a "custom" clutch made for me by the Toystore. I was supposed to be getting a 4-puck style racing clutch, and a 1500 lbs pressure plate. 2 freaking months later I get what I call a Centerforce Dual Friction wanna be. I think he simply gave me an DF clutch plate, although both sides look the same, not different, like on the DF. There is a Dual Friction Sticker on it. The pressure plate looks like a home-made attempt at the centerforce type. Weighted fingers on the diaphragm for increasing pressure with revs. If I were you, I'd go for a straight Centerforfce DF unit. I'm leaning more towards a PAECO stage II engine. Bored and Stroked. 185+HP? The turbo kit, if it happens, comes from the same guy who screwed me with my clutch! So you can see why the Paeco engine is looking better. I don't do the work myself. :( Right now the engine is sick. Maybe you follwed the "stuck valves?" thread. I think it's a loose conection that I'm able to jiggle and get it to start, otherwise it just turns over and over. We should get together sometime and look at our cars. I don't know any MR2 people, certainly not any who modify them. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: msink@gateway.bsis.com (Mark Sink - Gateway Production) Cc: schicked@aurxc1.aur.alcatel.com, toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: MR2 Mods Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 15:22:52 -0400 From: "Mark Schickedantz" > I know about the THSCC, I've seen there pamplet, and considered joining, >but didn't want to drive to all the sites. Did you do the Car Guys School? >I definitely want to do that. Rocky Mount is not a bad drive, I think it only took 1 - 1.5 hours to get there. The one in Wilson would not be a drive either. They do have course set up for Morrisville in a couple of months. I'll be there if I have my clutch fixed by then. I haven't done the Car Guys School YET!, its definitely something I want to do too. >As for clutch, DON'T get the HKS heavy duty, and DON'T get anything custom >made from the Toystore in CA. I went through my HKS unit very quick. BTW, >I also have ther light weight flywheel that I no longer use. I haven't >decided If I want to keep it or sell it. I guess I should look at PAECO and TRD for clutches (I noticed you have cross-posted to toyota-mods, any one out there have any recomendations?). I was pretty lucky with my stock clutch, it has lasted over 95,000 miles. >I don't do the work myself. :( I did all of the suspension work myself and it wasn't too bad. I think I can handle the brake work but am not sure about replacing the clutch myself. Has anyone on the mods list done this on an MR2? or 4AGE? >Right now the engine is sick. Maybe you follwed the "stuck valves?" thread. >I think it's a loose conection that I'm able to jiggle and get it to start, >otherwise it just turns over and over. I don't recall it right off, was it on the mr2-interest or the toyota-mods list? I didn't really know about the toyota-mods list can someone subscribe me? xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 15:31:14 EDT From: msink@gateway.bsis.com (Mark Sink - Gateway Production) To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Could the person now in charge tell me or schicked@aurxc1.aur.alcatel.com how they can submit a request to join the list. He seems like a good candidate. Thanks, Mark SInk xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: 12 Jul 94 04:58:09 EDT From: "Kevin W. Smith" <76334.3232@compuserve.com> To: Subject: RE: Welcome Newbie ! (Late Reply) Thanks for the welcome, always nice to find a friendly place online. >>Oh Oh ! Not another damm Cali person ! =) Ya, there's a lot of us doing expensive things to their Toyotas, out here. Where are you, Koji? What are you driving? >> Notice: Its a hatchback.... =) Ya, real unique... I liked the coupe better, but needed the cargo space. Not only is it my sports car, but it's my delivery van and camper. >> How many grams =) Good question. If anyone knows what the rate is on these things, and how they compare to TRD and Eibach springs, please let me know. >> Adjustable ? =) Illumina's ? =) Non-adjustables... I figured that since I was getting their springs, they'd match, but not quite. Bit too much spring for the shock, I think. Revising the setup is in the (distant) future, any ideas are welcome. Just don't say "TRD," their setup has the right ride heigth, but it's too stiff for my liking. >>TRD negative roll blocks (strut-spindle spacers) >Wow !!! No wow, they were cheap. Highly recommended. >> What kinna rims ? Some kind of WRD fakes. I bought 'em from some guy in the valley during a weak moment. They were unused and the price was right, but I can't find centering rings that fit the wheel (76mm bore). They're 20-spoke, white centers with a polished lip, on a red car. Interesting look, but I want the real deal. They have a 17 offset, too much for this car. I looked high and low for new wheels that would fit, but *NOBODY* had any, except for some Elite 5-spokes I didn't like. I just found out that Car Mate in Glendale can order me some Japanese wheels like the Volk Racing (ya!) and Tom's, but at $250+ a piece, it's not something I'm going to do right away... >>Potentiometer ? What that? >> Beverly Hills Motoring Accessories Floor Mats =) Nice Logos =) Ya, nice red logo to remind me that I do, in fact, drive a Toyota. Funny thing, nobody ever told them that their mats for this car, which they've sold since 1985, don't fit! I raised hell and met with the guy who makes them, gave him the factory mats as a template, and got back some mats which fit flush, flat, and nice. >> The hard bushing are which ones ? Not the poly ? Naw, just the rubber ones from TRD. 30% stiffer than stock. >> No exhaust system or a custom one ? Haven't really considered one, the factory pipe is pretty wide. I could be wrong, but I'm afraid that wider tubing will suck away what little power there is below 4200. Comments? >> Be sure to plug in that stupid emissions sensor before you bolt it >> back up its a pain to put in otherwise... I'm keeping the cat on. I blocked the ERG valve already, but there are limits to my environmental insensitivity. >> Thats something we nebber discussed... VERY smart... opening the >> throttle body...no matter how "open" you air comming in or ya air box or >> lack of its the throttle body opening that determines it all... Yup. 10% more power. RC Engineering in Torrance will do it for about $300 (including some manifold work), but first I have to figure out how to remove the intake manifold without rewiring the whole ******* car! No thanks to Toyota for running the wiring harness in such a way that you can't remove the manifold without pulling the entire harness out of the car, or cutting and splicing the section which runs through the manifold. Grrr... >> Get the ones with the allen screws... its worth the extra effort other >> wise the "set" ones can be flaky at times... Can you be more specific? HKS sez they only have one type, don't know which one it is. >> MSD 6-AL ? So can run the dual 44's =) Not into carbs! Yuck, who needs the hassle. I drove one that had the conversion once...didn't do ****, except give the owner something to do on weekends besides drive his car... >> Woah ! Do some serious Spirited Street Driving ? =) Not a big deal since the motor's getting old anyway, and their parts don't cost much more than factory ones. I'm at 100K with the factory setup, and besides, 170hp sounds like fun. I might blow off the HKS flywheel, though, and put the money towards an LSD, which it never had but will certainly need. >> Ummm proper ? Proper. Tower-tower strut braces don't do anything. Tower-firewall-tower braces do. >> Wow.. the White Toystore GT ? =) Early year coupes are kewl =) Nope, mine was a red hatchback (can you spot a trend, here?). They used mine to get the spec. I got a free air dam that way, too. Right place at the right time. That Celica was on the second boatload, and I had a friend doing fleet sales. BTW, if I remember right, the coupe didn't come out 'till 83. Thanks again for the warm welcome. Kevin (who's half-way through a head gasket job, what a task!) xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: "Allan Chen" Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 04:57:54 -0700 To: Darin Ray Hamilton Subject: Re: SuperTrapp Cc: MR2 Interest Mailing List , On Jul 11, 12:06pm, Darin Ray Hamilton wrote: > Subject: Re: SuperTrapp > Mine's open-cap with a chrome tip. > Unfortunately, I can't richen the mixture by "rejetting the carbs", since > mine's EFI. :) > I'm going to time it ASAP, but my buddy said I'm already running rich (I > think I agree, simply from the exhaust odour). There was discussion earlier on mixture adjustment on EFI units that fellow newbie toy_modder Kevin Smith posted. I could rummage through my mail file if you don't have a copy. The mixture adjustment screw is usually covered by a brass plug. A small drill bit (w/ a good touch) should be able to remove it. > I'm confused though... Wouldn't richening the mixture be counter-intuitative? > If the backfiring is caused by unburnt fuel in the exhaust manifold, > wouldn't leaning the mix cut the amount of these gasses? There will always be unburnt gases (combustion in a cylinder is not a complete cycle) even in a lean mixture the only difference is that a lean mixture runs hot (just like hot spots causes pre_detonation/run_ons). Since it is already in an excited state and combustion cycle is more readily obtained once rexposed to oxygen (good reference for this would be Smokey Yunick's Hot Engine... refer to HotRod magazine circ.? or his books). Note: that the backfire is light... like the car is farting. Now if you had a overtly rich mixture... let's say you left the car in gear while the car is rolling and you decide to flood the motor. As soon as you turn on your ignition you will experience a combustion cycle outside of the CYLINDER... possibly requiring you to purchase a new muffler system (it may blow apart your mufflers at the seams). Great trick to scare the living shit out of your friends, may also end up being a very costly expendature (backfire trick will not necessarily work well with cars outfitted w/ catalytic converters but will destroy exhaust systems with large displacement engines i.e. big_block chevy's) *hahahahahah*. Mahalo, Allan xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: "Allan Chen" Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 05:00:32 -0700 To: Darin Ray Hamilton , Subject: Re: SuperTrapp Cc: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com On Jul 11, 12:25pm, Darin Ray Hamilton wrote: > Subject: Re: SuperTrapp > The shop that did the install would have told me if something like the > above was the case. It's just a backpressure issue, I guess... > I'm still going to time it and muck with the mixture to see what I can do. Definitely give it a try. It should quell the backfiring a bit. Good luck. Latas, Allan xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: "Allan Chen" Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 05:32:23 -0700 To: msink@gateway.bsis.com (Mark Sink - Gateway Production), Cc: schicked@aurxc1.aur.alcatel.com Subject: Suscribe... On Jul 11, 3:31pm, Mark Sink - Gateway Production wrote: > Subject: > Could the person now in charge tell me or schicked@aurxc1.aur.alcatel.com > how they can submit a request to join the list. He seems like a good > candidate. Mark, I believe our Toy_mods administrator is playing soilder (National Guard duty) this week. You could have the other Mark suscribe by submitting his request to toyota-mods-request@su102a.ess.harris.com I'll also include a posting from our fellow backup admin Tom Julien. Definitely don't want poor Mark to be subjected to some netcaning from either Ben Tan or Koji. Latas, Allan ================================================================================ On Jan 15, 10:15am, Thomas J Julien Jr wrote: > Subject: Welcome to the Toyota-Mods Mailing List > > W E L C O M E to t o y o t a - m o d s > ---------------------------------------- > > Hello new subscriber! You have been added to the toyota-mods mailing list. > > This list is dedicated to modifications to Toyota flavour vehicles, but NOT > intended for pro-racers ONLY! We all try to maintain the philosophy that > regardless of how trivial some information may be to some people, others > may find it very useful. Hopefully, you will find this mentality prevalent > on the list and won't witness anyone's ideas being bashed. > > *** For future reference *** > > Please send "postings" to: > > toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com > > Please send "requests" (i.e. subscriptions, unsubscribes, etc.) to: > > toyota-mods-request@su102a.ess.harris.com > > NOTE: Administrative matters sent to the posting address will not be caught > and posts to the request address will not go out to list. Be careful > where you send your messages! > > **************************** > > Following this message, I will be sending you three lists associated with this > mailing list: > > book list -- list of related publications > supplier -- list of suppliers for Toyota performance parts, etc. > subscriber -- list of toyota-mods subscribers, their autos, and mods. > > They are usually sent on a monthly basis to include new updates, etc., but > can be requested at any time. > > Again, welcome to the list, and we look forward to your contribution > >-- End of excerpt from Thomas J Julien Jr xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tue, 12 Jul 94 04:21:28 HST From: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: RE: Newbie Wannabe Take ][ This is some guy i've been talking through i found on rec.autos.tech He seems kinna kewl..but since our beerless leader is away playing in the mud (without his truck) hmmm can sum bunny give him some insight ? =) Thanks in advance =P -Koji >From nitemare@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu Sun Jul 10 22:13:45 1994 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 03:12:16 -0500 From: dave To: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu Subject: Re: TOYOTA+MIKUNI CARBS Q. >Well, basically I'm converting the 22RE in my 84 Celica GTS to >carbs/cam/header/20R head because I have been told that the EFI system >is uncooroperative with such mods. >I had considered 18RG, 3TGTE, and 22RTE but rejected all due to cost. >What do you say? Sum bunny can give him some insights ? he seems kewl enough =) -Koji. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tue, 12 Jul 94 04:26:17 HST From: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: RE: Supertrapp and EFI Tuning... I normally let convos like this take place with more knowledgable peeples.. howebber i think its sorta errr getting off the subject in some places... First off... it IS possible to tune an efi system. Secondly.... I belive your "sputering" is comming from too much of an open exhaust system with not enough backpressure. Adding more plates would help a little. My friend had a similiar exhaust which included a glasspack type muffler on his 1987 MR-2 Automatic. did you just change the muffler or the whole exhaust ? Sorry i haven't been following the postings =( -Koji xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tue, 12 Jul 94 10:31:48 EDT From: msink@gateway.bsis.com (Mark Sink - Gateway Production) To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: 4age clutch HKS flywheel Roger, I went back to stock because I was having a custom clutch made that should not be used with the HKS flywheel. The HKS flywheel, although they say it's 3 times stronger than stock, can be chewed up by some clutches. Dual Frictions, and metalic clutches should not be used with the flywheel. Stock clucthes, HKS heavy duty, or Ferrodo's are fine with the flywheel. Also, the flywheel is patterened after the '85, maybe '86 also, but mine is an '87. I was using an '85 size clutch 200mm and the flywheel. I'm now back to 210mm clutch, and stock flywheel, so if you do get the flywheel, you'll be ordering clucthes for an '85. Mark Sink xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tue, 12 Jul 94 04:59:47 HST From: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: RE: Welcome Newbie ! >From 76334.3232@compuserve.com Mon Jul 11 23:02:23 1994 Date: 12 Jul 94 04:58:09 EDT From: "Kevin W. Smith" <76334.3232@compuserve.com> Subject: RE: Welcome Newbie ! (Late Reply) >Thanks for the welcome, always nice to find a friendly place online. Heh or someplace to waste bandwidth ! Boggle the Compuserve Address though =P >>>>Oh Oh ! Not another damm Cali person ! =) >Ya, there's a lot of us doing expensive things to their Toyotas, out here. >Where are you, Koji? What are you driving? Heh heh... so i've heard these a days... Sad to say when i was in Cali looking for performance parts and all. I was say like 1 mile from TRD USA (i think infront of Clarks house =P ) at a gas station asking for TRD and the guy went "whats that" and i told him the place where they sell performance parts for Toyota's and he promptly told me to head towards this nearest dealership and the dealership didn't know where it was either ! (*boggle*) It must have been Clark now that I think back... hmmm hmmmm =P Oh... i live like 3k miles away from you... Makai =) >>>> Notice: Its a hatchback.... =) >Ya, real unique... I liked the coupe better, but needed the cargo space. >Not only is it my sports car, but it's my delivery van and camper. I can relate... more then anything i can relate =) >>>> How many grams =) >Good question. If anyone knows what the rate is on these things, and how they >compare to TRD and Eibach springs, please let me know. I have no clue either. Infact the only other person i know that had switched to TRD and i have the set of "throw aways" in my garage someplace =) >>>> Adjustable ? =) Illumina's ? =) >Non-adjustables... I figured that since I was getting their springs, they'd >match, but not quite. Bit too much spring for the shock, I think. Revising >the setup is in the (distant) future, any ideas are welcome. Just don't say >"TRD," their setup has the right ride heigth, but it's too stiff for my liking. Bahahahaha... Actually they are quite stiff... and the low pressures are kinna hard to get these days... (although they can be seen in the TRD catalogue) heh even though... they have the adjustable rates these days... eben then it comes down to ya gonna like the performance of the stiffer so why spend the money for adjustables if ya not gonna change them... sorta like locking out the TEMS on the Supra's =) >>>>TRD negative roll blocks (strut-spindle spacers) >>Wow !!! >No wow, they were cheap. Highly recommended. Weally ? Define cheap ? I thought they were like $100 per side ? Or maybe this is an old price list ?!?!? >>>> What kinna rims ? >Some kind of WRD fakes. I bought 'em from some guy in the valley during a weak >moment. They were unused and the price was right, but I can't find centering >rings that fit the wheel (76mm bore). They're 20-spoke, white centers with a >polished lip, on a red car. Interesting look, but I want the real deal. They >have a 17 offset, too much for this car. I looked high and low for new wheels >that would fit, but *NOBODY* had any, except for some Elite 5-spokes I didn't >like. I just found out that Car Mate in Glendale can order me some Japanese >wheels like the Volk Racing (ya!) and Tom's, but at $250+ a piece, it's not >something I'm going to do right away...> Hahahahah Botoboy should talk about this one... he has the cheapie rims on his GTS also =) Also Botoboy lives down or lived down the street from me a while back =) Actually how much per rim are ya willing to spend and also how wide etc etc again ? =) >>>>Potentiometer ? >What that? Ummm it basically is a little potentiometer that adjusts the reading on the EFI system to basically make it leaner so more gas runs into the EFI system. Easy to install. Check the Toyota Performance Handbook about this mod or i'm sure some others on here have done it... I hope =) >>>> Beverly Hills Motoring Accessories Floor Mats =) Nice Logos =) >Ya, nice red logo to remind me that I do, in fact, drive a Toyota. Funny >thing, nobody ever told them that their mats for this car, which they've sold >since 1985, don't fit! I raised hell and met with the guy who makes them, gave >him the factory mats as a template, and got back some mats which fit flush, >flat, and nice. Teeheehee... Ya.... Nice logo... glad ya got yours to fit =) Wow... sum bunny that actually got good mats from BHMA with nice Logos ! =) I guess ya GADA goto the source sometimes =) >>>> The hard bushing are which ones ? Not the poly ? >Naw, just the rubber ones from TRD. 30% stiffer than stock. Those are kinna okay... the harden rubber... the plyurathane was worth it and they don't wear out..or not supposed to =) >>>> No exhaust system or a custom one ? >Haven't really considered one, the factory pipe is pretty wide. I could be >wrong, but I'm afraid that wider tubing will suck away what little power there >is below 4200. Comments? Hmmmmm a "scavaging effect" (sorry Toymodders) exhaust would work. Basically go from the stock pipe. Ahhhhh... Check the back listings about this ha ha or have one of the modders like measure their pipes for you =) Actually just go from the exhaust and go backwards with "bigger" pipes like from the stock 1 3/4 to a 1 3/4 inlet glasspack type muffler with a two inch outlet backwards to maybe another 2" inlet glasspack with a 2 1/2 outlet and outwards... not every systems or set up needs a dual muffler for maximum compression though... ahhh jus measure an HKS one =) Even the HKS one looses some backpressure at RPM's about 7.5k =) Actually a lot =( It just don't flow... >>>> Be sure to plug in that stupid emissions sensor before you bolt it >>>> back up its a pain to put in otherwise... >I'm keeping the cat on. I blocked the ERG valve already, but there are limits >to my environmental insensitivity. Teeheehee =) >>>> Thats something we nebber discussed... VERY smart... opening the >>>> throttle body...no matter how "open" you air comming in or ya air box or >>>> lack of its the throttle body opening that determines it all... >Yup. 10% more power. RC Engineering in Torrance will do it for about $300 >(including some manifold work), but first I have to figure out how to remove >the intake manifold without rewiring the whole ******* car! No thanks to >Toyota for running the wiring harness in such a way that you can't remove the >manifold without pulling the entire harness out of the car, or cutting and >splicing the section which runs through the manifold. Grrr... Actually it comes out... oh yes it does... and ya don't have to rewire it... i'll go get my camera and steal a friends car to do it.. remind me... ha ha ha (really do) >>>> Get the ones with the allen screws... its worth the extra effort other >>>> wise the "set" ones can be flaky at times... >Can you be more specific? HKS sez they only have one type, don't know which >one it is. Actually the HKS ones pictured are like the ones i have in mind except they don't go far enough. Basically a TRD one looks like a stock one with more center holes. The HKS one is like the one i have inmind althought it don't go farther then 20 degress per side.. I think the 5Gzen one is the one i have in mind... Actually convince the TRD guys to get the ones they use on their Formula Atlantic ones =) >>>> MSD 6-AL ? So can run the dual 44's =) >Not into carbs! Yuck, who needs the hassle. I drove one that had the >conversion once...didn't do ****, except give the owner something to do on >weekends besides drive his car... Heh... I guess he paid the $400 for the distrbuitor. Actually... proably was set up wrong.. my friends one down here with the same setup does rather well with the cams. It can do like somewhere of upwards of 160mph plus with a 14.8 1/4 mile... Oh... with stock final drive gears that is =) >>>> Woah ! Do some serious Spirited Street Driving ? =) >Not a big deal since the motor's getting old anyway, and their parts don't cost >much more than factory ones. I'm at 100K with the factory setup, and besides, >170hp sounds like fun. I might blow off the HKS flywheel, though, and put the >money towards an LSD, which it never had but will certainly need. The HKS flywheel or any other flywheel don't really work that well. It rattles too much and i don't think is a good investment. Plus i cut my flywheel like over a 100 times and its proably the same weight as a lightened one and like stronger =) It don't rattle ! >>>> Ummm proper ? >Proper. Tower-tower strut braces don't do anything. Tower-firewall-tower >braces do. Wow ! Yeppers... actually it does tighten up the front a bit.. although locking it up to the firewall does help a lot on most applications. Like on my car it would be too stiff if i locked up the front end to the firewall and cause me to spin out due to more oversteer ! >>>> Wow.. the White Toystore GT ? =) Early year coupes are kewl =) >Nope, mine was a red hatchback (can you spot a trend, here?). They used mine >to get the spec. I got a free air dam that way, too. Right place at the right >time. That Celica was on the second boatload, and I had a friend doing fleet >sales. BTW, if I remember right, the coupe didn't come out 'till 83. Heh heh... I had the Red Corolla with the big Toystore sticker on my car ages ago.. they proably don't remeber me anymore i can't remeber what i bought from them. I think it was a set of 8 coil springs for my coupe =) They were "nice" ha ha ha ... Hmmmm ya the coupe didn't come out till 83 or so.. i think =) >Thanks again for the warm welcome. Anytime =) I think those Cali peeples should have another reunion =) I'm commin up in August ! =-) Any Bunny wanna drive to Vegas with me =) > Kevin (who's half-way through a head gasket job, what a task!) Ewwww... (*comfort*) -Koji xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tue, 12 Jul 94 05:02:46 HST From: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: RE: Custom Clutches... I'd like to make a quick comment on this also... Most custom clutches i've encountered aren't worth the trouble. They tend to rattle like heck and have problems sticking the gears into reverse at times. Causes some unnerving rattles in the driveline system also. The Centerforce dual friction is maybe the best clutch i've used. I like the Centerforce ][ clutch well. The one ran out too fast and didn't bit as well. A Stock clutch served me well with SCCA as i wanted a bit of play and driving in taffic was a dream with it. Driving every day witht he Centerforce ][ got me like to wait an hour till traffic was done since i had no a/c and a strong clutch but it turned me into a "shop wannabe" hanging around shops and such talking story.. ha ha thank god i'm not one of them today ! =P heh... Becareful what ya want... ya might get it afterall =) -Koji xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tue, 12 Jul 94 05:04:43 HST From: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: RE: 4AGE Stroker Kits... Two of my errr... these guys that i know both have identical 4AGE Corolla GTS's and have done similiar setups with them. Like same parts. However ones going with the TRD Stroker and the other with the HKS Will keep ya informed when they install it =) I think sadly the HKS one will work better due to the better crank and also the metal head gaskets. however the TRD stroker has the better apex seals so -shrug- -Koji xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tue, 12 Jul 94 05:09:25 HST From: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu To: toyota-mods-wob@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Wob Wob ! -Koji (*netcane me*) xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tue, 12 Jul 94 05:12:05 HST From: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Gack... Netcane 4 Koji... Ummm... Sorry... N E Bunny know the FTP or WWW address for the Mosiac site =) sorry both other lists are blounce back to me when i try to post or something... -Koji xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tue, 12 Jul 94 05:14:55 HST From: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu To: toyota-mods-wob@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: LocalBoy ! what the heck is ya address ?!?!?! I can't mail to ya or nothing these a days !!! keeps on dang blouncing back to me =) bahahhahahaa -koji xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: "Allan Chen" Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 08:15:57 -0700 To: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu, toyota-mods-wob@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: Wob On Jul 12, 5:09am, tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu wrote: > Subject: Wob > > Wob ! > > -Koji > > (*netcane me*) Or was it more like wet noodling. Botoboy!!! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tue, 12 Jul 94 05:17:51 HST From: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Teflon Lined Brake Lines... Ummm... I've had stainless steel braided brake lines on my car before... but got netcaned for them not being DOT approved. Does anyone know if the "New" HKS ones are DOT Approved ? I mean they gada be TUV approved but i'm not sure if they are DOT approved. And how well are they in performance wise ? I've heard they are like teflon steel braided in construction but not sure of much else... Thanks in Advance.. -Koji xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tue, 12 Jul 94 05:20:21 HST From: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu To: toyota-mods-wob@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: WOB ! -LocalBoy ! Dang it... ya address or replys keep on blouncing back to me ! (*grumble*) Dann UHmailserver... Ha ha ha ... I think ya should post about the side skirts ya got for ya GTS... ha ha or do ya know where they came from ? Or shall i get the stock part numbers for ya or net-noddle Sean for them ? He's working HMSA now i heard ha ha ha =) -Koji xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: "Allan Chen" Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 08:32:55 -0700 To: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu, toyota-mods-wob@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: WOB ! -LocalBoy ! On Jul 12, 5:20am, tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu wrote: > Subject: WOB ! -LocalBoy ! > > Dang it... ya address or replys keep on blouncing back to me ! > (*grumble*) Dann UHmailserver... Keep trying... some of it got thru. > I think ya should post about the side skirts ya got for ya GTS... ha ha or > do ya know where they came from ? Or shall i get the stock part numbers for ya > or net-noddle Sean for them ? He's working HMSA now i heard ha ha ha =) It came wit da car... so it's best to bug Shawn Meador. If not give Evan (Kaneohe Toyota a call), he should be able to get you the part number without a hitch... tell 'em Allan from Windward Union said, "hi". What da heck is Shawn M. doing at HMSA? I thought he was at American Savings. Latas, Allan xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 8:34:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Clark Wallace To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: RE: Welcome Newbie > >>>>Oh Oh ! Not another damm Cali person ! =) >>Ya, there's a lot of us doing expensive things to their Toyotas, out here. >>Where are you, Koji? What are you driving? >Heh heh... so i've heard these a days... Sad to say when i was in Cali looking >for performance parts and all. I was say like 1 mile from TRD USA (i think >infront of Clarks house =P ) at a gas station asking for TRD and the guy went >"whats that" and i told him the place where they sell performance parts for >Toyota's and he promptly told me to head towards this nearest dealership >and the dealership didn't know where it was either ! (*boggle*) It must have >been Clark now that I think back... hmmm hmmmm =P Uhhhh, what's TRD and pass the potato salad. >Anytime =) I think those Cali peeples should have another reunion =) I'm commin >up in August ! =-) Any Bunny wanna drive to Vegas with me =) . . . . did somebody say Vegas??!!?? Hey, on Aug 28th there having the next Battle of the Imports at LA County Raceway . . anybody wanna go . . .we can all take a plate lunch :O Clark xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: "Allan Chen" Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 08:40:45 -0700 To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Requested Mosaic Site... Cc: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu On Jul 12, 5:12am, tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu wrote: > Subject: Gack... Netcane 4 Koji... > > Ummm... Sorry... > N E Bunny know the FTP or WWW address for the Mosiac site =) I'm forwarding you a copy of it. > sorry both other lists are blounce back to me when i try to post > or something... Only you so far... *grin*. Latas, Allan --- Forwarded mail from cmyer@su102a.ess.harris.com (Chris Myer) To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com > About Mosaic... what is it? I have been asked this question a few times recently, and thought I'd answer it for the group. Mosaic is a graphical user interface to various internet services. Usually, it is considered a front-end to WWW (World Wide Web) sites, but will also front-end for gopher, news, etc. It is definitely the future of the internet. If you have your own machine, you can get the executable for Mosaic from ncsa.uiuc.edu via anonymous ftp. Executables are available for the PC, Mac, and a plethora of UNIX machines. Trust me, get it and you will find it very valuable. If you are on a larger machine, Mosaic may already be available, or you may be able to talk your administrators into installing it into usr/local/bin or wherever you put that sorta stuff. At any rate, Mosaic uses URL's to specify sites. These are just a twist on IP addresses in that they not only include the host but what is being served as well. To access the TMMS, type this at the command line: Mosaic http://su102a.ess.harris.com Note that I've been told that if you are on a PC you may need to put another slash (/) at the end of the URL shown above. If you find the TMMS intriguing but want to learn more about what this new WWW World has to offer, try my friends machine. Once you are in Mosaic, you can go directly to it by pulling down the file window and selecting "Open URL" and entering: http://su102d.ess.harris.com This site is a great launching point to many other spots. If you choose to start using Mosaic, please let me know so I can add your name to the toyota-mods-Mosaic exploder listing. That way I can let you know when I add new stuff to the TMMS. Let me know if you have any questions, or you can direct them to toyota-mods-mosaic. Chris --- End of forwarded mail from cmyer@su102a.ess.harris.com (Chris Myer) xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tue, 12 Jul 94 05:42:37 HST From: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu To: toyota-mods-wob@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: RE: Wob - Localboy >From allanc@sydney.corp.sgi.com Tue Jul 12 05:33:48 1994 From: "Allan Chen" Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 08:32:55 -0700 Subject: Re: WOB ! -LocalBoy ! On Jul 12, 5:20am, tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu wrote: >> Subject: WOB ! -LocalBoy ! >> >> Dang it... ya address or replys keep on blouncing back to me ! >> (*grumble*) Dann UHmailserver... > Keep trying... some of it got thru. >> I think ya should post about the side skirts ya got for ya GTS... ha ha or >> do ya know where they came from ? >> Or shall i get the stock part numbers for ya or net-noddle Sean for them ? >> He's working HMSA now i heard ha ha ha =) >It came wit da car... so it's best to bug Shawn Meador. Heh... ya how ebber ya spell his name ha ha ha i jus know where he lives ! Ha ha ha he still lives sameplace jus across the street i hear from his house... >If not give Evan (Kaneohe Toyota a call), he should be able to get you >the part number without a hitch... Oh.. ha ha Japan stock part number though eh ? >tell 'em Allan from Windward Union said, "hi". Wow.. another 76 boy eh ? ha ha ha >What da heck is Shawn M. doing at HMSA? I dunno same thing i think...except more money or something... >I thought he was at American Savings. -shrug- friend works at HMSA computing and says he seen shawn m's name in the "new employess" newsletter or something... "Lives in kaneohe with his wife roxanne and his new baby" or somehting ha ha ha >Latas, >Allan Wow it worked.. now i can go shower and stuff then go to work -boggle- a ha hahaha laterz... -Koji BTW... Celica dude still alive =) ? just pondering... or maybe i'm missing his postings... ha ha ha -me xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: "Allan Chen" Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 08:50:41 -0700 To: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu, toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: 4AGE Stroker Kits... On Jul 12, 5:04am, tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu wrote: > Subject: RE: 4AGE Stroker Kits... > > Two of my errr... these guys that i know both have identical 4AGE Corolla > GTS's and have done similiar setups with them. Like same parts. > However ones going with the TRD Stroker and the other with the HKS > Will keep ya informed when they install it =) > > I think sadly the HKS one will work better due to the better > crank and also the metal head gaskets. I wonder if you could pick the parts you want rather than purchasing the whole kit? > however the TRD stroker has the better apex seals so -shrug- Duuuuhhh silly question, what's a apex seal? Allan xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tue, 12 Jul 94 05:51:39 HST From: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: RE: Cali - Vegas ?!?!?! >From SAVE@CPVA.SAIC.COM Tue Jul 12 05:45:07 1994 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 8:34:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Clark Wallace Subject: RE: Welcome Newbie > >>>>Oh Oh ! Not another damm Cali person ! =) >Uhhhh, what's TRD and pass the potato salad. >Anytime =) I think those Cali peeples should have another reunion =) > I'm comming up in August... Any bunny wanna drive to Vegas with me =) >. . . . did somebody say Vegas??!!?? Yeppers... sure did.... Have to go visit Dada and all in Vegas.. drive around "American Muscle cars for a week" and such ha ha ha >Hey, on Aug 28th there having the next Battle of the Imports at LA County >Raceway . . anybody wanna go . . .we can all take a plate lunch :O Woo woo ! Any Bunny we know entering ? I'm game... I think =) If not i'll drive back obber ! =) >Clark -Koji Proud builder of 1968 Camaro Red Blown and Injected as seen in Air Force Commercial. =) xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 8:56:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Clark Wallace To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: RE: Cali - Vegas ?!?!?! >>. . . . did somebody say Vegas??!!?? >Yeppers... sure did.... Have to go visit Dada and all in Vegas.. drive around >"American Muscle cars for a week" and such ha ha ha Driving to Vegas, I just LOVE the Nevada Hwy Patrol!! I really miss the ol' gang at the Jean Justice County Court . . . >>Hey, on Aug 28th there having the next Battle of the Imports at LA County >>Raceway . . anybody wanna go . . .we can all take a plate lunch :O >Woo woo ! Any Bunny we know entering ? I'm game... I think =) >If not i'll drive back obber ! =) I hear they'll be around 200 competitors and its quite a show. I'm playing host to some of my wife's friends from Japan the previous week, but plan on arranging things so that I can slip away to attend. Should be fun. >-Koji Clark xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: Gary H To: 76334.3232@compuserve.com, toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: RE: Welcome Newbie ! (Late Reply) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 94 9:17:55 PDT From: "Kevin W. Smith" <76334.3232@compuserve.com> >Nope, mine was a red hatchback (can you spot a trend, here?). They used mine >to get the spec. I got a free air dam that way, too. Right place at the right >time. That Celica was on the second boatload, and I had a friend doing fleet >sales. BTW, if I remember right, the coupe didn't come out 'till 83. Kevin, If you're talking about the Celica, I have an 82 Celica Coupe. Gary xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: "Allan Chen" Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 11:04:49 -0700 To: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu, toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: Welcome Newbie ! On Jul 12, 4:59am, tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu wrote: > Subject: RE: Welcome Newbie ! > >>>> Notice: Its a hatchback.... =) Hey, there's nothing wrong with that!!! '87 Corolla GT-S liftbacks... A number 1 *hahahaha*. > Hahahahah Botoboy should talk about this one... he has the cheapie rims > on his GTS also =) Also Botoboy lives down or lived down the street from me > a while back =) Actually how much per rim are ya willing to spend and also > how wide etc etc again ? =) Well, I'm kinda transplanted now... about 2000 miles away. Miss the warm sun, the surf, and the local babes in the thong bikinis *heheheheh*. Stay away from those cheapie Elite Fitti wanna_bes. Invest good money in something a little better in quality. It will be worth it in the long run. The chrome is chipping on the fronts (unable to handle the heat) and the cheap plastic center caps are loose (modified it w/ electrical tape so it would remain fixed. > >>>>Potentiometer ? > > >What that? Geeze Koji why make it so technical keep it simple *grin*... a varible resistor (like a volume control knob). In this case a mixture adjustment screw for the EFI. > Ummm it basically is a little potentiometer that adjusts the reading on the > EFI system to basically make it leaner so more gas runs into the EFI system. > Easy to install. Check the Toyota Performance Handbook about this mod or > i'm sure some others on here have done it... I hope =) Hey Mark Sink, this is the info you needed to play around with around with the mixture. > >>>> No exhaust system or a custom one ? > > >Haven't really considered one, the factory pipe is pretty wide. I could be > >wrong, but I'm afraid that wider tubing will suck away what little power > >there is below 4200. Comments? Just do it... it pays of in top speed. So what if you lose some torque on the bottom-end. Just alter your driving style to best suit/utilize this slightly different powerband. > Anytime =) I think those Cali peeples should have another reunion =) I'm > commin up in August ! =-) Any Bunny wanna drive to Vegas with me =) Eh, Koji... I'll be back in Hawaii from the 9th to the 23rd of August... U like make wun Zippy's run *hahahahah*. I could probably join you in Vegas if I could get some set dates. Latas, Allan xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: "Allan Chen" Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 11:12:06 -0700 To: tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu, toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: Cali - Vegas ?!?!?! On Jul 12, 5:51am, tkoseki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu wrote: > Subject: RE: Cali - Vegas ?!?!?! > >Uhhhh, what's TRD and pass the potato salad. Give me a scoop of mac salad anyday w/ 2 scoops rice on a plate lunch :^). > >Anytime =) I think those Cali peeples should have another reunion =) > > I'm comming up in August... Any bunny wanna drive to Vegas with me =) > >. . . . did somebody say Vegas??!!?? Where (like Cali is kinna big and I stay North) and when are you leaving? > Yeppers... sure did.... Have to go visit Dada and all in Vegas.. drive around > "American Muscle cars for a week" and such ha ha ha Uhhhh, the redneck side suuuuure comes out doesn't it *heheheheh*. You mean... no your Camaroooo... I like ride *grin*. > -Koji > Proud builder of 1968 Camaro Red Blown and Injected as seen in Air Force > Commercial. =) Botoboy Famous choni_chaser of 69 RS/SS 427 Camaro fame... never kiss a gift horse in the mouth... especially if she drives a red '67 Camaro *hahahaha*. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tue, 12 Jul 94 16:00:05 EDT From: msink@gateway.bsis.com (Mark Sink - Gateway Production) To: rogers@golddisk.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: Light weight flywheel... Cc: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com The HKS flywheel weighs 11 lbs I think, I can check My stock weighs 15.5 I think. I can't say I noticed much difference, but it was lighter, so I'm sure there was... somewhere. Either in throttle repsonse, or HP transmitted to the wheels. I thought I was going to be getting a 4-puck metallic clutch when I bought this last custom one, but it just some centerforce thing. You might be able to insert a bronze? plate on the flywheel that can be changed so the flywheel doesn't get eaten. The HKS unit I have will need to be resurfaced, as all used flywheels should before using them. It's not smooth like it should be. The rivets from the clutch plate made some marks. BTW, the pressure plate, a 1380 lbs HKS unit should still be good. The friction disk went bad early. 1 year, 6 months. About 20,000 miles or less. I can check. Anyway, maybe you could use it also. BUT, it too had rivet marks from where I wore down the clutch plate. Can it be resurfaced? I would assume the diaphragms are still strong. The pedal pressure was much stiffer then the NEW one I have now, which was suppsoed to be a 1500 lbs unit. I might just try to sell the flywheel and cover if it's worth anything. The flywheel lists for $225 I believe, I might sell it for $120. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 13:40:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Clark Wallace To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Oh the Things a Supplier Will Tell You to Make A Buck Thought I'd pass on some recent education I obtained as I muster through my 20R rebuild. In considering the intake options that are available to me I came across a reference to Offenhauser and their dual port intake manifolds. These manifolds are actually sold as air cleaner/carb/manifold sets by Northwest Off-Road (the Toyota truck people) so I thought they were worth a look. The concept is basically reduced runner cross-sectional areas (divided between the primary and second on the carb, hence the name "dual port") which equates to higher velocities and (apparently) better mixing blah, blah, blah . . So I called up Offenhauser and talked to somebody named Vince who basically fed me the party line ("sure they work" and all that) and told me he'd send out some test results for one of their manifolds installed on a 20R. A few days later I got this article they'd copied out of "Off-Road Magazine" in the mail. Now, if I've learned anything its never trust a magazine's review of anybody's product whose helping to pay the bills through advertising. Just pick-up a Motor Trend and read about the amazing mega-buck after market products they strap onto cars which result in BIG seat-of- the-pants HP gains. Yet after spending $6000 on this stuff, they never seem to be able to scratch up the extra $140 to get the damn thing dyno'd to backup their o-so-wonder impressions. Anywho's, what they apparently did was strap some of these dual- ports (single and double barrel carb) on a '79 truck with a 20R engine and then dyno'd the thing at some emissions lab. They reported a 10 to 20% increase depending on the set-up which they attributed to the presence of the manifolds. But there's something fishy about the numbers they used for coming to this conclusion. They claimed that the stock truck delivered 86 HP at 4600 rpms. Now, Toyota officially reports that the 20R on a '78 Celica is something like 95 HP - truck should be basically the same, right??. So the 10% increase reported for the two-barrel configuration put the truck's power right were it belonged. But it gets more interesting . . . Just to really confuse matters they stuck a 32/36 Weber onto the manifold. This would make it a bit difficult to segregate what enhancement, if any, the manifold could provide over a pure stock arrangement :/. Also, if you look at the pictures that accompany the article, you can see that they removed the EGR system after they installed the manifold and the Weber. In fact, (though I'm not sure) it appears as if they pulled all the smog off the truck! So, for this supposed test, they inst