Toyota-Mods Postings Oct 1994

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My front brakes are the cooled ones found in Celica Supra & Celica GT-S (-'85). -- Matti Kalalahti | Toyota Carina Coupe GT-T TwinCam Turbo '82 k124476@ee.tut.fi | RWD * IRS * 3T-GTEU * 165hp * 210-227Nm@4-5.5k A Huge Evergrowing WWW Home Page * http://www.cs.tut.fi/~k124476/ xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sat, 1 Oct 94 20:23:01 EDT From: cmyer@su102a.ess.harris.com (Chris Myer) To: tm@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: Keyed! If its down to the metal, get that metal covered with something thicker than wax! If your paint is pretty fresh looking (as you indicate that it is) you may be able to fix it up enough that it isn't too bad. You won't make it un- noticeable, but it will be hidden to the casual observer. Get the color-code matched paint from Toyota. Get some sand paper and smooth the spot out. This will mean you will have to take some (ok, a bunch) more paint off. Not for the weak hearted! Basically smooth it all down. Now, get some good primer in a can and apply it with an air brush. I've got a really nice one I can loan you if you can get an air source, or you can drive down here one weekend and we'll do it at my house (about 2.5 hours from you.) (Several iterations of primer/sand to smooth follow...) Now, air brush on the paint from Toyota. The air brush will allow you to blend it in. (...couple iterations of paint/sand until it looks good...) Now, either clear coat it or wax it (wait a couple of weeks befor you apply wax to fresh paint). I'd shoot a little clear coat on myself. As a minimum, this will keep the spot from rusting and getting worse. If you're really lucky, it'll match almost perfectly. At any rate, it will save you the money of getting a complete new paint job, which is really the only way to fix a bad spot (in my opinion.) And, it should only cost you a few bucks. Chris xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sun, 2 Oct 94 19:30:26 GMT From: koji@mael.soest.hawaii.edu To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: RE: Comment I made about Rims... I forget the comment I made..and frankly..i lost the mail I was supposed to reply on.. Basically it went something like this... By changing to a smaller rim acceleration goes up and top speed goes down however changing to a slightly bigger rim with the same wheel dynamics acceleration goes up and so does top speed. Sorry i forgot to mention about motor loads and stuff. Actually if you go down a rim size or so then ya acceleration does go up and you have less load on the motor. And vica versa for larger rims. Ya put more load on the motor with larger rims. Thus is why like for Turbo cars, a larger rim is sometimes more attractive. To put load on the motor. This however decreases everyday driviablity but you get better performance by like a bigger tire patch on the road..but it depends on what ya wanna give up and not... Hope this confuses ya all more =) -koji xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: koji@mael.soest.hawaii.edu Cc: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: Comment I made about Rims... Date: Mon, 03 Oct 94 10:45:06 -0700 From: danapple@vicor.com > koji@mael.soest.hawaii.edu writes: > By changing to a smaller rim acceleration goes up and top speed goes down > however changing to a slightly bigger rim with the same wheel dynamics accele > ration goes up and so does top speed. I'm not sure I completely agree with the "top-speed" relationship posited here. Top-speed depends on optimizing power vs. wind- and ground-resistance. It is possible that a lower final drive ratio ("smaller rim") can actually increase top speed. In addition, the two halves of your sentance are contradictory, if taken in isolation. For instance, if I change to a bigger rim, my top speed with go up. Then, I change to a smaller rim, and my top speed goes up again. I believe to optimize top speed you need the equation for wind- and ground-resistance of your vehicle, as well as the power peak of your rear wheel power. Find out at what ground speed you get resistance equal to your peak wheel power. Then gear your car to get your engine to that peak power at that ground speed. > -koji Dan. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Mon, 3 Oct 94 14:29:29 EDT From: cmyer@su102a.ess.harris.com (Chris Myer) To: tm@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Going off the air for a bit... I'll be moving from my current office on Wednesday, October 5th, into a new building. Sometime around then (either that day or just after) this machine, su102a, will go down for the move. So, if you get some strange bounces to your posts, you'll know why. Status of Cyberspace: Well, things never go as smoothly as planned, but I hope to get the Cyberspace machine moved over to the cyberauto.com domain this coming weekend. PROVIDING that InterNIC gets off their *beep* and registers my domain. Usually it takes about 2 weeks, and I've been waiting about 3. As soon as I move the machine, TM will officially move to cyberauto.com. BTW, the business is moving along slowly but surely. I have two catalogs (almost) completed, and hope to have about 10 ready when I put the machine on-line next week. Initially, it will be a Web-served catalog only, and it won't really be "open" for a couple of weeks. I hope that everyone who can will browse the pages though and be really critical so I can have all of the buggy stuff worked out before my "Grand Opening". Sorry I've been too busy to really contribute here. Hopefully that will change soon. Chris xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: looit@cs_srv1.mh.dpi.qld.gov.au Subject: Re: Mods to my '88 Supra Turbo To: goble@maxwell.ee.washington.edu (Brian Goble) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 94 15:01:21 EST Cc: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com, supras@vicor.com > I've been so busy at work that I haven't had time to tell everyone > about the most recent mods to my '88 Supra Turbo. > > I got: > > HKS PowerFlow > HKS EVCII > HKS Boost Gauge > > (note that I already had an HKS Turbo Exhaust) > > The only bad part to these mods were that my stock computer seems to > want to shut off boost at about 10.5 psi--most shut off boost around > 14 psi. > The solution is to get the HKS PFC-FCON to over-ride this and also > tweak the fuel mixture stuff. This solution is gonna cost me around > $1k (installed) but then I'll be up around 350 hp. > Sorry but I have to ask this question... How much does HKS gear cost over there?? in OZ, it is generally known to cost a bundle and the only thing that it delivers over unbranded (or unknown name brands, or self made stuff) is a nice box in which the parts sit in. I don't own a turbo car but have looked extensively at modifying one (wanted to know before I owned it) and it costs heaps more if you use HKS gear. A HKS turbo control centre (3 buttons for 100,150,200%) costs about A$1000. this is much to dear for what it is worth (especially when you can get look-a-likes for a lot less). Why is it that most US (or Northern Hemisphere)engine builders immediately go for HKS?? Is it really cheap there??? a HKS exhaust system here costs about A$2000 (manifold and system, no cat conv., sorry we need that thing) in stainless steel, way too many $$$$. also, how did you work out 350hp?? > Spending a few grand on these gizmos will hopefully keep me happy > enough so I can wait a little longer before buying an RX7 TT or > Supra TT :) how is the new Supra (we don't get to see it here, in fact, we don't get to see most Toyota performance stuff anymore, even the 4AGE is gone) thanks for your impending thoughts, i just needed to know what all the rage about HKS stuff is. My uncle works with touring cars and Grp A rally cars and they quote about 350hp (flywheel) for the competition stuff, running crazy boost (in fact he runs a Schnitzer outfit and they claim 320hp from a E30 M3 racer) Ted -- ############################################################################# SSSS X X TTTTTT CCCCC S S X X TT C ted@dpi.qld.gov.au SSSS XX ---- TT C looit@dpi.qld.gov.au SSSS XX ---- TT C S S X X TT C SSSS X X TT CCCCC "TALK TO ME" or ... # FAN of Guru Swami Bugger the rest of you I'm alright thanks Jack... G # ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^ xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: Gary H To: danapple@vicor.com, koji@mael.soest.hawaii.edu Subject: Re: Comment I made about Rims... Cc: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Date: Mon, 3 Oct 94 14:08:07 PDT From: danapple@vicor.com > >> koji@mael.soest.hawaii.edu writes: > >> By changing to a smaller rim acceleration goes up and top speed goes down >> however changing to a slightly bigger rim with the same wheel dynamics accele >> ration goes up and so does top speed. > >I'm not sure I completely agree with the "top-speed" relationship >posited here. Top-speed depends on optimizing power vs. wind- and >ground-resistance. It is possible that a lower final drive ratio >("smaller rim") can actually increase top speed. > >In addition, the two halves of your sentance are contradictory, if >taken in isolation. For instance, if I change to a bigger rim, my top >speed with go up. Then, I change to a smaller rim, and my top speed >goes up again. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing as well! I agreed with what Koji said until I read the contradiction (about the bigger sized rim causing acceleration to go UP). Gary xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: "Allan Chen" Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 09:03:16 -0700 To: koji@mael.soest.hawaii.edu, toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: Comment I made about Rims... On Oct 2, 7:30pm, koji@mael.soest.hawaii.edu wrote: > Subject: RE: Comment I made about Rims... > By changing to a smaller rim acceleration goes up and top speed goes down > however changing to a slightly bigger rim with the same wheel dynamics > acceleration goes up and so does top speed. Hmmm, I believe larger rim diameter promotes stability and not acceleration for top_end... the physics explains (refer to section on angular momentum of a toroidal object same mass i.e. gyroscopic effect). Moment increases exponentially regardless of mass so if the rim is farther away from the center the greater the moment require to change the direction. The only explaination I could provide for the acceleration experienced in a topend run would be that due to the increased moment it would require a greater force to alter/change the direction of the wheel... therefore the acceleration curve experienced would be more linear than let say a smaller diameter wheel. But if this a top speed related question/explaination it would be a horsepower/rolling friction issue and. Your top_speed could be limited by your gearing but ultimately if you are producing a top_speed machine it would the horsepower you have to produce to overcome all the friction. There is a old saying in drag racing... "With enough horsepower you could make a brick go 300mph". In that saying... it states that you could also overcome wind resistance (drag) with enough horsepower. A good example if you noticed that as you are cruising along at about 100mph on Hwy 5 (not that I would *grin*) you will notice that as it takes a while to slow down but as soon as you reach about 70mph... the car dramatically decelerates quicker. That is where air resistance overcomes horsepower. Same applies when an airplane stalls (but in that situation there is no lift in the wings). > Sorry i forgot to mention about motor loads and stuff. Actually if you go down > a rim size or so then ya acceleration does go up and you have less load on > the motor. And vica versa for larger rims. Ya put more load on the motor with > larger rims. Thus is why like for Turbo cars, a larger rim is sometimes > more attractive. To put load on the motor. This however decreases everyday > driviablity but you get better performance by like a bigger tire patch on the > road..but it depends on what ya wanna give up and not... In this part... you are discussing about overcoming rolling friction. Bigger contact patches require more effort to overcome the resistance. > Hope this confuses ya all more =) Yup you did your job... cause I'm all confused *hahahah*. Latas, Allan xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tue, 4 Oct 94 23:00:13 EDT From: cmyer@su102a.ess.harris.com (Chris Myer) To: tm@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Going off-line for a bit... Well, I'm taking su102a down so it can be move tomorrow morning. If everything goes as expected (Does it ever?) look for it to be back up around noon EST tomorrow. Chris xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sun, 9 Oct 94 17:55:11 HST From: koji@mael.soest.hawaii.edu To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Solo I I ATTEPMTED to race Solo I in a car that was well prepared to my standards. After about 20 hot laps with the WELL PREPARED CAR... I saw GOD.... I thought I was gonna die. The car was smoking and dying a slow death. All the prepration and synthetics and such wasn't enough. There was a need for more improvement... Solo I is not for Wusses, or half prepared cars. If ya think ya car is well prepared...try run Solo I It bring ya into a whole new light... - Allen T "Koji" Kam - who saw God, Elvis and that Regis guy *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* | Allen T "Koji" Kam koji@mael.soest.Hawaii.edu | | koji%interact.uucp@netcom.com | | Live life, Taste Death... | | Speed is Pure !!! Don't let up till ya see RED ! | | Autosport Hawaii / Automotive Performance Research / Nakata Research | | Advan Racing / HKS / Jacobs / SSR / Toyota Racing Development / Yokohama | | All except my self is an enemy in the jungle called a racing circuit. | | Effective exhaust sound shakes the ground. A fight of proud and beautiful | | brutes is about to start. No boday wants to see the sight of rival's tail | | Setting the Standards..... -Benchmark Racing | *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: looit@cs_srv1.mh.dpi.qld.gov.au Subject: Re: Solo I To: koji@mael.soest.hawaii.edu Date: Mon, 10 Oct 94 14:38:36 EST Cc: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com > > I ATTEPMTED to race Solo I in a car that was well prepared to my standards. > > After about 20 hot laps with the WELL PREPARED CAR... > > I saw GOD.... > > I thought I was gonna die. > > The car was smoking and dying a slow death. > > All the prepration and synthetics and such wasn't enough. > There was a need for more improvement... > > Solo I is not for Wusses, or half prepared cars. > > If ya think ya car is well prepared...try run Solo I > It bring ya into a whole new light... > sorry to sound like an idiot, but I am going to... What is Solo I???? what has to happen in it and how do you go about getting to it Ted -- ############################################################################# SSSS X X TTTTTT CCCCC S S X X TT C ted@dpi.qld.gov.au SSSS XX ---- TT C looit@dpi.qld.gov.au SSSS XX ---- TT C S S X X TT C SSSS X X TT CCCCC "TALK TO ME" or ... # FAN of Guru Swami Bugger the rest of you I'm alright thanks Jack... G # ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^ xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: "Allan Chen" Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 03:56:52 -0700 To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: Toyota Mods list Cc: ferguson@ccgate.ari.ch Guys, Here is a little something from a transplanted Stephen Ferguson... Something I thought would be quite interesting that Stephen would like to share with us. Latas, Allan --- Forwarded mail from Stephen Ferguson Is anyone out there on Chris's Toyota-Mods list? I was until I moved to Switzerland, and now I've lost the request address. Could someone please send me the address by PRIVATE reply so I can get back in touch with Koji et al? Thanks for the tip. I'll give it a try. Hopefully in a few days I'll be able to tell you guys all about the lovely Toys here in Switzerland (as well as the Escort Cosworths, Lancia Delta S4's, Audi RS2's... I'm in heaven). Stephen --- End of forwarded mail from Stephen Ferguson xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thu, 13 Oct 94 13:58:07 EDT From: cmyer@SU102A (Chris Myer) To: tm@SU102A Subject: Testing, 1,2,3... Hello? Anybody getting this? My simple computer move turned into a OS- reinstall nightmare! Some of you send mail (either to me or the group or both) so I can see if I've got everything back yet. Chris xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: tm@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Electric cooling fans Date: Thu, 13 Oct 94 11:39:11 -0700 From: danapple@vicor.com Well, my MA61 Supra is now (intentionally) missing the engine-driven cooling fan. So, it's time to add one or two electric cooling fans. What is the best way to do this? Add fans right to the radiator, or mount a fan to the shroud and continue to use the fan shroud as a velocity stack? Dan. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thu, 13 Oct 94 14:40:51 EDT From: cmyer@SU102A.ess.harris.com (Chris Myer) To: tm@SU102A.ess.harris.com Subject: testing 4,5,6 Yes, its a Sun. No, I don't know why my full path name doesn't get appended in the from line. All I know is that something is causing this thing to occasionaly go into a mail loop from hell and repeatedly send mail back and forth between my machine and another here in this building at speeds only imaginable on a computer. As a matter of fact, I thing it is about to go into another looping frenzy! Doh! Stay tuned.... Chris xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thu, 13 Oct 94 15:24:43 EDT From: cmyer@SU102A (Chris Myer) To: tm@SU102A Subject: Re: Electric cooling fans > Well, my MA61 Supra is now (intentionally) missing the engine-driven > cooling fan. So, it's time to add one or two electric cooling fans. > What is the best way to do this? Add fans right to the radiator, or > mount a fan to the shroud and continue to use the fan shroud as a > velocity stack? There's an excellent article in one of my Circle Track Magazines on why shroud's are so important and how to design a good one. I'll try to remember to bring it in and write up a summary for the group. I also have a source for high-volume automotive cooling fans, and I'll give you the info I have on them. BTW, I changed the electric cooling fan on the Oldsmobile about 2 months ago. The distributor wanted ~$130 for the motor, retail. I used my car-dealer buddy's name (as if I were buying it for the dealership) and got it for less than $30. Is this a great country or what? Chris xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 15:00:26 -0700 From: JQL@ix.netcom.com (John Lee) Subject: Re: Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: host not found) Cc: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com You wrote: >You wrote: > >> >>Hello? Anybody getting this? My simple computer move turned into a OS- >>reinstall nightmare! Some of you send mail (either to me or the group or >>both) so I can see if I've got everything back yet. >> >>Chris >> > >Booo!!! > >Wharrrrrrrrrr!!! > >Growllllll!!!! > >Opps! NOT Quite holloween yet.... I'll try to hold back till then. > >John Lee >jql@ix.netcom.com xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: Chris Myer Cc: tm From: Steven Jackson Date: 14 Oct 94 11:27:26 ES Subject: Re: Testing, 1,2,3... Hi Chris: I got your test. - Steven xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Fri, 14 Oct 94 11:06:09 HST From: koji@mael.soest.hawaii.edu To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Testing... I can finger chris and su102a.ess.harris.com but i cannot mail there =) -Koji (*blounce blounce*) xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 14:29:17 -0700 From: JQL@ix.netcom.com (John Lee) Subject: Testing still??? To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Well... Got Chris' test msg @ 1-2 days ago... It got bounced back... Well... While I'm here... 1. Whats up with http://cyberspace.cyberauto.com? 2. Chris, hows your current racing efforts? 3. Koji, what car/mods did ya race with in Solo I? -john xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: "Allan Chen" Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 15:40:45 -0700 To: koji@mael.soest.hawaii.edu, toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: Testing... On Oct 14, 11:06am, koji@mael.soest.hawaii.edu wrote: > Subject: Testing... > > I can finger chris and su102a.ess.harris.com > but i cannot mail there =) > > -Koji > (*blounce blounce*) Yo Koji, whatever you do on your own time is your own business *hahahaha*. Latas, Allan xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Fri, 14 Oct 94 12:46:14 HST From: koji@mael.soest.hawaii.edu To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: RE: Testing Still >From JQL@ix.netcom.com Fri Oct 14 11:36:39 1994 Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 14:29:17 -0700 From: JQL@ix.netcom.com (John Lee) Subject: Testing still??? >Well... >Got Chris' test msg @ 1-2 days ago... It got bounced back... >Well... While I'm here... Heh.. WOB WOB ! =) > 1. Whats up with http://cyberspace.cyberauto.com? Ya.... I wonder if Chris is that new chip company in florida that does the mods to their stock computers =) > 2. Chris, hows your current racing efforts? Chris's current racing efforts are great ! He's racing to get eberry thing back online ! > 3. Koji, what car/mods did ya race with in Solo I? For SCCA Solo I the car i tested was a 1987 Corolla GTS. Full TRD suspension, race springs, shocks/struts (high pressure),poly urathane bushings,adjustable end link bar,TRD antisway bars,strut tower bars (front and back),rally cams,TRD cam timing gears,bigger injectors,headers,HKS exhaust,195/60's 14" on 14 x 6" 1983 supra rims,TRD close ratio gears, quick shift,TRD lsd, TRD 4.55 final drive gears. 5 point harness, SCAT racing seats,full synthetics in motor and drive train. Cross drilled vented brake system. 12 Point Rollcage. Lets just say... I died... the car is no longer in exhistance after my friend took a turn at 150mph plus and sorta blounced the car off the highway down here trying to race a dodge viper. >-john Oh...we ran the MSD ignition system. I no longer have faith in it since welps.. i do but i don't. for the GTS it worked great, however for like my friends turbo supra we installed it and had to basically set it back to "stock" levels s so it proved no big help. We are currently running the Jacobs and sad to say its working a lot better =) -Koji xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 03:15:03 -0700 From: JQL@ix.netcom.com (John Lee) Subject: RE: Testing Still To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com You wrote: >> 2. Chris, hows your current racing efforts? > >Chris's current racing efforts are great ! He's racing to get eberry thing >back online ! > Go Chris Go !!!! Hmmm.. Somehow it doesn't sound quite as good as "Go Speed Go!!" BTW, any Speed Racer Fans within this group? > >> 3. Koji, what car/mods did ya race with in Solo I? > >For SCCA Solo I the car i tested was a 1987 Corolla GTS. Full TRD suspension, >Lets just say... I died... the car is no longer in exhistance after my friend >took a turn at 150mph plus and sorta blounced the car off the highway >down here trying to race a dodge viper. Gasp!!!! took a turn at 150mph??? so... did the viper take the same turn at speed?? >>-john > >Oh...we ran the MSD ignition system. I no longer have faith in it since welps.. >i do but i don't. for the GTS it worked great, however for like my friends turbo >supra we installed it and had to basically set it back to "stock" levels s >so it proved no big help. We are currently running the Jacobs and sad to say >its working a lot better =) > >-Koji It is my understanding that the igniton of turbo supras are diffucult to improve upon (computer). Interesing that the Jacobs is better than the stock turbos' computer... So...which would yyou recommend for my 18RG? MSD/Jacobs/Crane? In a Toyota Truck catalog (Performance Products in Van Nuys, CA, free catalog 800-553-2840) they are selling Jacobs system and it sounds really great, however, I would like some unbiased/real world opinions. I'm currently running stock electronic ignition from 78? 79? Celica and it seems ok but kind of 'ugly'. I'm thinking of switching to a latter model ignitor (as described in TPH) and moving battery back (behind seat? or trunk? decisions decisions...) Whell... my clock sez 3:20 a.m. I best leave it a that and get xome ZZZ's -john xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sun, 16 Oct 94 17:22:02 CDT From: Fred_Oberbuchner@MBnet.MB.CA (Fred Oberbuchner) To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: T-mods WWW server? Sorry for the WOB but out system was badly trashed and I am missing the WWW server location for the TM home page. Also, any update on the big switch for TM? All my mail for the last 3-4 days got trashed so I am clued out (more so than usual!). Thanks, Fred (fredo@mbnet.mb.ca) xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Mon, 17 Oct 94 14:51:32 EDT From: cmyer@SU102A (Chris Myer) To: tm@SU102A Subject: Back from Quidity MAN! What a major hassle! Here's a quick synopsis: (WARNING: Some UNIX references follow. 1000 pardons!) I change offices, and take my computer with me. My old "buddies" get pissed, and take me out of their netgroup (NIS, Yellow- pages, whatever you want to call it.) Being heavily reliant on stuff on other peoples hard drives, my computer becomes _worthless_! (Long fruitless battle. They try to get my computer back, and fail. I try to get back onto the net group, and fail.) I have to back all my stuff up, and reinstall the OS as a standalone machine. This is painful, plus it leaves me with a total of about 50 MB of free disk space on a half gigabyte disk after my home directory is added! I think mail is working, and tell everyone to try it. Suddenly, everything starts bouncing to heck and back, and I totally fill my /var with bounce messages! :-( (Several fruitless days of trying to find the problem.) Mailer starts working, and I can log in, but the machine I am now mounting for stuff doesn't have everything I like. (Lucid Emacs, Color xterm, etc.) I come in today, and my login has died. My root password has changed. My mount to that other machine is not only dead, but the auto.master and auto. direct files are _gone_! Hacker, or rdist program run amuck? I think the latter. Time will tell. Regarding many questions: Yes, Koji was right again, racing to get my machine up. Cyberauto.com is waiting on the pinheads at Internic to register my domain! It's been like 5 weeks. AARRGGGHH!!! How long can it possibly take? I hope to move the machine over to my internet provider Wednesday if THE DING DONGS at INTERNIC get me REGISTERED!!! As far as the business: Things are going fairly well. I am going to make make catalog available via the Web, but I won't be open for business for a while yet. I want everything to be flawless when the first new customers take a look. In the meantime, as soon as I get hooked up, would everyone who can browse the web _please_ beat on my catalog pages and let me know what you like, what you don't, what needs work, etc. It is definitely a work in progress. BTW, I hope to get the automated email catalog and gopher servers working shortly. Ignitions were mentioned. I can get Accel, MSD, Jacobs, and probably anything else. I am in a real quandry about what to carry as my main line. I've not been that impressed with Jacobs, but I do know a lot of folks who have been real happy with them. Accel is cheap, but it seems to work sufficiently. MSD costs more and has a better reputation, but I've heard some complaints about them. Any suggestions? Um, Koji mentioned "that chip maker in Florida." That would be Superchips, owned by Peter Wales. I've approached Mr. Wales about allowing me to market his products, but he adopted a "wait and see" attitude. This is fine, I think I will impress him. I _will_ carry a line of performance prom upgrades, and I think Mr. Wales would rather I provide a market, as opposed to competition. FWIW, he can be found around and about on the 'net, so you might want to mention Cyberspace Automotive Performance in a positive light if you bump into him. ;-) Well, gotta run and get the rest of the bugs worked out with this system. Sorry again for the glitches, and thanks for hanging in there for me! Chris PS: Special bonus for anyone who can identify the book from which I take the word "Quidity" in the subject! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 20:37:52 -0600 (MDT) From: Darin Ray Hamilton Subject: NOS To: MR2 Interest Mailing List Cc: Toyota Mods Mailing List I'm considering adding a small (75-100bhp) NOS nitrous-oxide kit to either my present '86 MR2 or my future (grin) '91 MR2 Turbo. Does anyone have any success/horror stories? Does anyone have a good, cheap source for a quality kit (besides NOS directly)? Does any company make a better NO2 kit than NOS? (. )(. ) ------------------------------------###--\/\/\/\/--###------- Darin Ray Hamilton Faculty of Management, University of Calgary, Alberta, CANADA e-mail: drhamilt@acs.ucalgary.ca xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tue, 18 Oct 94 00:11:11 CDT From: Fred_Oberbuchner@MBnet.MB.CA (Fred Oberbuchner) To: Darin Ray Hamilton Cc: Toyota Mods Mailing List Subject: RE: NOS >I'm considering adding a small (75-100bhp) NOS nitrous-oxide kit to Does this mean you have given up on the turbo idea? It sounded like that was your first choice. (curious) >either my present '86 MR2 or my future (grin) '91 MR2 Turbo. >Does anyone have any success/horror stories? Jackson Autosport out here has put a 2-stage NOS system onto a super-modified Honda Civic DX (!!!) with EXCELLENT results. (and another one on a Colt with similar results) This car has had many mods and is now running a 14.1 sec 1/4 mile at 103 MPH which is very impressive at our track out here! (modified F*or M*stangs with the super-5.0 run about 15+ secs) Bear in mind that from what I have heard, NO2 is expensive and a bottle doesn't last that long if you use it alot. (Someone mentioned in the order of "minutes" under NOS boost for a full bottle!!!) >Does anyone have a good, cheap source for a quality kit (besides NOS >directly)? The kit on the Civic was from NOS from what I have seen. The only advice I know of is to watch out for the cheaper kits. They sometimes tend to delete things like low-fuel-pressure-cutoff solenoids which are totally useless except that they prevent your engine from becoming a heap of slag if you lose fuel pressure under NOS!!! Regards, fredo fredo@mbnet.mb.ca xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tue, 18 Oct 94 00:21:01 CDT From: Fred_Oberbuchner@MBnet.MB.CA (Fred Oberbuchner) To: tm@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: For sale: Electromotive HPV3 ignition Hi all! I am selling my Electromotive HPV3 ignition system (I think I posted this some time ago?) This is a direct-fire (also known as crank-fire) system for a 4-cyl application. This setup deletes the distributor and takes the timing signal right off the crank. It also has a serial interface to a PC so you can set your timing curves via software. This is a really slick setup for anyone with carbs!!! EFI would be somewhat more tricky depending on the level of EFI integration. I am asking $625 Canadian (shipping extra) to recover what I paid for it. I think I have finally convinced myself to save my pennies and go full replacement EFI (Electromotive TEC-II system). Apparently the parts cost is about $2000 though so I may be saving for a while! If interested, drop me a line! Thanks, fredo fredo@mbnet.mb.ca xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 19 Oct 94 09:50:55 EDT From: johnd@iplmaster.orl.mmc.com (John Deame) To: PAH112@psuvm.psu.edu Cc: supras@vicor.com, toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: Preferred Synthetic Oil For Turbos "Peter Howard" writes: > Hello, > > I was just wondering what viscosity of synthetic motor oil is preferred for > the 87 Supra Turbo. I would like to use Mobil 1 10W-30, but I have heard that > Syntec 5W-50 is a better choice, because you can use it all year. I had similar questions a while back, so I talked to a petroleum engineer at Exxon who was well versed on the subject. He summarized as follows: 1) Mobil 1 is the best oil in the US. 2) FM7 Oil Additive makes it better, racers have seen a 50% reduction in boundary layer friction, resulting in up to 1 HP on stock-cars (racing). 3) as for what viscosity to use, anything with 2.6 MegaPascals/sec hi-temp sheer rating (e.g.: any Mobil 1 product) 4) Polyalphaolefin based oils (like Mobil 1) tend to cause gaskets and seals to shrink and harden whereas Dibasic Organic Esters (like AMSOIL) tend to cause gaskets to swell. Note that Mobil 1 adds conditioners to attempt to acheive neutral effects on seals. 5) Mobil 1 10w30 is the only grade which contains Molybdenum, an effctive friction reducing agent. 6) Mobil 1 should prevent pitting (corrosion) even with low sump level; return cam to Mobil 1. 7) What causes the most damage to oils is cold starting and short trips. As far as year-round use, all synthetics tend to flow better at cold temperatures than their mineral oil counterparts, so 10W-30 should be fine year-round. Happy Motoring, JED ---------------------------------------------------------------------- John E. Deame (JED) johnd@iplmail.orl.mmc.com 1984 Toyota Supra MA61 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: Matti Kalalahti Subject: R.I.P. Carina To: tm@su102a.ess.harris.com (Toyota-Mods mailing list) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 17:25:21 +0200 (EET) Cc: toyota-l@bgu.edu My Carina was stolen last night while I was at the university reading mail :( The police found it today, abandoned in a land dumping place, stuck in the mud. The engine is toast, as there was oil sprayed all over the cam cover and intake side. The suspension has had a hard time there too (it's no 4x4), there were marks in the front tires that they had touched the wheel wells. Exhaust pipe had hit the ground. My suitcase with 400+ pages of copied material was gone, as well as the multimeter I used for monitoring the fuel mixture. Of course the stereo was gone. The police who found it broke a key in the ignition lock which couldn't be removed. The car got towed into the local Toyota dealer's back yard, where I will tomorrow meet the insurance company agent. So hopefully in the next few days I will know whether it will be repaired or totalled. Thank god I had the full insurance, but you know how insurance companies are when it's their time to pay... Anyway, weeks (or months) of work may have been totally in vain. -- Matti Kalalahti | RIP Toyota Carina Coupe GT-T TwinCam Turbo '82 k124476@ee.tut.fi | RWD * IRS * 3T-GTEU * 181hp * 239Nm@5200 A Huge Evergrowing WWW Home Page * http://www.cs.tut.fi/~k124476/ xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thu, 20 Oct 94 11:37:29 EDT From: cmyer@su102a (Chris Myer) To: tm@su102a Subject: Getting there... Sorry for the waste of bandwidth, but it was quiet anyway. If you can do a whois, do one on cyberauto.com. For those of you who can't... CYBERSPACE AUTOMOTIVE PERFORMANCE (CYBERAUTO-DOM) Cyberspace Automotive Performance 1496 Hyacinth ST NE Palm Bay, FL 32907 Domain Name: CYBERAUTO.COM Administrative Contact: Meyer, Christopher (CM140) cmyer@CYBERSPACE.CYBERAUTO.COM (407) 725-8742 Technical Contact, Zone Contact: Blenke, Ian (IB5) iblenke@TACH.NET (407) 728-8081 Record last updated on 19-Oct-94. Domain servers in listed order: NS.TACH.NET 199.0.8.2 NS1.SPRINTLINK.NET 144.228.1.40 Cool, eh? Don't bother pinging yet, I haven't moved my machine over there yet. As soon as I do and get the bugs worked out, we'll move TM (and the TM Web site) to its new home! Too bad we haven't yet advanced enough yet to have a 'net-party. Oh, well, party amoung yourselves! (I'm not even going to whine _yet_ about my name being mis-spelled.) Chris xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thu, 20 Oct 94 06:13:21 HST From: koji@mael.soest.hawaii.edu To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: RE: Getting There... > Administrative Contact: > Meyer, Christopher (CM140) cmyer@CYBERSPACE.CYBERAUTO.COM >(I'm not even going to whine _yet_ about my name being mis-spelled.) d00d ! Ya Famous ! Ya dat meat dude =) >Chris Maybe the'll change it to... Administrative Contact: Mayor, Christopher =) Then ya'd be Mayor ! =) Go Go Speed Racer =) (Ya i'm a fan 2) -Koji xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thu, 20 Oct 94 10:07:57 PDT From: edwang@lsil.com (Ed Wang - 7837) To: johnd@iplmaster.orl.mmc.com, toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Re: Preferred Synthetic Oil For Turbos Talking about synthetic oil, what's the life of Syntec 5W-50, in how many miles/monthes? I used Syntec 5W-50 in my 4Runner V6 for two+ monthes/ 6700 miles and had to replace it because I can hear the valves knocking sound. (No knocking sound after a normal oil change.) I was told synthetic oil can last a long time, but... What is your net wisdom's opinion? Edward Wang (408) GEE-STEP Fax: (408) 954-4874 edwang@up171.lsil.com xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Preferred Synthetic Oil For Turbos To: johnd@iplmaster.orl.mmc.com (John Deame) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 94 10:58:12 WST Cc: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com (mods) From: "Benjamin T.P. Tan" > > I was just wondering what viscosity of synthetic motor oil is preferred for > > the 87 Supra Turbo. I would like to use Mobil 1 10W-30, but I have heard that > > Syntec 5W-50 is a better choice, because you can use it all year. Interesting that the Mobil 1 you guys get over there is 10W-30, but I guess this has to do with your outside temp. Over here 1deg N of the equator, (yes, that wonderful country, Singapore ;-) ) where the weather is HOT and WET all year round (daytime usually between 29 to 32) (nights 27 to 30 C) (sorry, we've gone metric here, and I left my HP48SX in the car...). Anyway back to what I was saying: the Mobil 1 that we get here is a 15W50 oil. Works great for me, costs S$70/4lit. approx US$48/1.06 gal. how does this price compare with what you're getting over there? Is Shell Helix Ultra a big thing over there? bentan -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Benjamin T.P. Tan | btptan@n201.f600.z6.fidonet.org | | law40034@nus.sg | btptan%nimajneb@csah.com | | btptan@solomon.technet.sg | UUCP/Fido dialup: (65)560-6040 | |----------------------------------------------------------------| | Caution: | Since we define terms using other terms, | | I drive like you | Man must be prepared to accept some terms| | X-TM-INFO:TA40/2T-B | as intelligible without definition. | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Dumping a 2TG head on a 2TB (?!) To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com (mods) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 94 11:00:36 WST From: "Benjamin T.P. Tan" Just found a 2TG in working order at a scrap yard here. I was wondering if it's possible to plonk that DOHC head on my existing 2TB. i.e. is the base block the same? How much adapting will I have to do? Do I know what I'm talking about? bentan -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Benjamin T.P. Tan | btptan@n201.f600.z6.fidonet.org | | law40034@nus.sg | btptan%nimajneb@csah.com | | btptan@solomon.technet.sg | UUCP/Fido dialup: (65)560-6040 | |----------------------------------------------------------------| | Caution: | Since we define terms using other terms, | | I drive like you | Man must be prepared to accept some terms| | X-TM-INFO:TA40/2T-B | as intelligible without definition. | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 02:54:56 -0700 From: JQL@ix.netcom.com (John Lee) Subject: Re: Dumping a 2TG head on a 2TB (?!) To: "Benjamin T.P. Tan" Cc: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com You wrote: >Just found a 2TG in working order at a scrap yard here. I was wondering if >it's possible to plonk that DOHC head on my existing 2TB. i.e. is the base >block the same? How much adapting will I have to do? Do I know what I'm >talking about? > >bentan You lucky dog! In the states (California to be exact), I've never seen a 2T-G in the self pick-n'-pull scrap yard. However, I did find a 18R-GU @ 2 weeks ago... Unfortunately, someone took the carbs, intake, valves, inner valve springs, distributor, and waterneck. Weird they didn't take the whole head... anyway.... as I understand it, the 2T-B is the dual carb version of the 2T-C soooo you should be able to 'plonk that DOHC head' on your existing 2TB. As far as other stuff ya got to adapt, you will at least need the following: (assuming you have the whole head w/carbs waterneck & ex. manifold) -timing chain cover -No. 2 timing chain -No. 1 timing gear -camshaft drive gear -pump drive shaft -chain tensioner slipper -pistons (maybe...) (It's more understandable with pictures... hmm.. Uh Chris... wanna add something like this in the WWW web? Maybe something like [2T to 2T-G], [18R to 18R-G], [4A to 4A-G can this b done?] yeah I know its easier to buy the whole darn motor but kinda difficult to do solo in salvage yard w/o renting a cherry picker) For 18R/RC owners add the following: -pistons -distributor -oil pump (may not be necessary) -oil pump drive gear -oil pump drive gear cover -oil pan (stock doesn't have anti-sloshing baffles) Well, I think that abouts covers it... but if I'm missing something (hey! its @ 3am as I'm typing this in), please ammend this checklist (ok koji, yeah, the gaskets, how could you forget the gaskets). I'm going to sleep now, -John xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Fri, 21 Oct 94 07:05:48 EDT From: cmyer@su102a (Chris Myer) To: tm@su102a Subject: Re: Preferred Synthetic Oil For Turbos I'm paying about $3.90 US plus tax (6%) for a quart at Wal-Mart. ($15.60 per gallon.) BTW, we have 15W50 over here too. Chris xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Fri, 21 Oct 94 07:17:05 EDT From: cmyer@su102a (Chris Myer) To: tm@su102a Subject: Re: Dumping a 2TG head on a 2TB (?!) > However, I did find a 18R-GU @ 2 weeks > ago... Unfortunately, someone took the carbs, intake, valves, inner valve > springs, > distributor, and waterneck. Weird they didn't take the whole head... Say, what do you think they'd want for the head? Did you ask? I'd be very interested... [*Excellent description of things to buy when changing over to a -G engine saved to my info/auto/toyota/general directory...*] > (It's more understandable with pictures... hmm.. Uh Chris... > wanna add something like this in the WWW web? Maybe something > like [2T to 2T-G], [18R to 18R-G], [4A to 4A-G can this b done?] As a matter of fact, we had considered that, and Fred (I believe, but its been a long time) even sent me some nice scanned images out of the Toyota manual. One reason I didn't post them was copyright concerns. However, if Phillip keeps working on our Toyota contacts, we might get more than a few pictures in the future... Chris xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sun, 23 Oct 94 10:33:04 MEZ From: Stephen Ferguson To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Replacement body panels Hello all, Does anybody know a US or Canadian source for replacement body panels for the 84-87 RWD Corolla Liftback? Steel or fiberglass are both ok (actually, glass panels would be rather nice to get the weight down). Thanks, Stephen p.s. I'm still not receiving any toyota-mods mail, but I haven't gotten any strange messages back that my subscription request bounced either. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 13:08:09 -0700 From: Joe Woodsprite To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com Subject: Porting and polishing Heads on a 22R Forwarded from the regular Toyota list: >From toyota-l@bgu.edu Wed Oct 26 12:06:01 1994 Received: from fsa.ecn.bgu.edu (root@fsa.ecn.bgu.edu [143.43.33.204]) by CSOS.ORST.EDU (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA22699 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 1994 12:06:00 -0700 Received: from ([127.0.0.1]) by fsa.ecn.bgu.edu with SMTP id AA12924 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 26 Oct 1994 14:04:09 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 14:04:09 -0500 Message-Id: Errors-To: mutrh@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu Reply-To: toyota-l@bgu.edu Originator: toyota-l@bgu.edu Sender: toyota-l@bgu.edu Precedence: bulk From: jetboat@hydra.unm.edu (Bret Martin) To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: HEAD: protort and polish X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: An interactive discussion of all Toyota vehicles Status: R Hi All, I have a 68'86 $4X4 with a 22rR. I just b got a motor to rebuild and I am going to port and polish the head. I have done this on a V-88 before but never a Toyota. If anybody has ever done this before would you please write me and give me any precautions, or try to talk me out of it. I would sure appreciate it. Bret Martin jetboat@unm.hydra.@hydra.unm.edu xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Meters (gauges) adapting/creating. To: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com (mods) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 94 0:48:03 WST From: "Benjamin T.P. Tan" Ok, a non-engine mod question for a change. (no rules against this right?) My temp guage just died and a friend's fuel guage has been dead for awhile. Problem with owning a TA40 or T20 in Singapore is spares. There aren't many of these at the junk yards and even less on the roads. i.e. I can't get a replacement meter anywhere. Solution that I've decied on is to have a little DIY a la circuit cellar fun. That is, make a meter out of LEDs and a couple of ICs. I realize that getting a meter for (say) a KE70 (easily available) and adapting from there (does it need to be adapted at all?) is probably easier, but heck, time is what we've got here. Besides I've always liked the digital dash in e.g. the 929 Mazada. What I need to know is the kind of signals that come in for fuel, temp, oil pressure, batt charge, etc.. Also, if anyone has it, the pin out for the connector would be very helpful. Yes, I know I'm being lazy here, but testing every lead and deducing which is which and what signal range I'm getting is something I'd like to avoid, if possible. Really appreciate any help here. Also, any comments as to what I'm doing... ("Yeah man! Sound like a great idea!", "Heck, this is the most brain dead thing I've heard of all year." or anything in between) bentan TA40/2T-B xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: "Benjamin T.P. Tan" Cc: toyota-mods@su102a.ess.harris.com (mods) Subject: Re: Meters (gauges) adapting/creating. Date: Mon, 31 Oct 94 08:07:28 -0800 From: danapple@vicor.com > "Benjamin T.P. Tan" writes: > What I need to know is the kind of signals that come in for fuel, temp, oil > pressure, batt charge, etc.. In case you get no better info, I think that often the senders for those measurements are variable resistors (pressure or heat or position dependent) that'll reduce the voltage from 12v in proportion to the thing being measured. So, for fuel, a full tank might be 12v and an empty tank 0v. It's also possible that the extremes don't wind up at 12v and 0v, but 10v and 2v, or something, you get the picture. A 20v voltmeter should be all you need to figure out the scale. Fill the tank, see what the reading is, drive till empty, see what the reading is. I can't help at all on the pinouts, but it sounds like a fun project. If you get serious, you might even be able to see replacement "cool" gauges in Singapore, since spares are so hard to find. > bentan Dan. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx